Magnets, Outer space, and Rings

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The discussion centers on the behavior of iron filings in the presence of a magnet in space, specifically whether a ring structure can form around the magnet. The consensus indicates that a ring will not form, as the filings will either drift away or adhere to the magnet. However, participants explored alternative scenarios, such as the effects of spinning magnets or multiple magnets, which could potentially influence the formation of a ring. The key takeaway is that stable circulation of particles around a central body is necessary for a ring system to develop.

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Awhile back there was a discussion about the following scenario: an astronaut sets free into space outside his window a round magnet so it just sits there a distance away ensuring the spaceship has no effect on the experiment. Then he wafts out gently a large pail of tiny iron filings and dust in the direction of the magnet and watches to see if a ring (ala Saturn) forms around the magnet at just the right distance from it. I believe the consensus was that no ring would form and that some filings would drift away and the rest cling to the magnet though there were dissenters. But I can’t remember if a different outcome, a ring, would form if the magnet was spinning or any other scenario where the ring would form. For instance if there were two magnet balls separated a short distance from one another or if they were bar magnets. So, the question is: is there any scenario where the ring would form?
 
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So, the question is: is there any scenario where the ring would form?
Any situation that supports circulation of particles, like in an orbit, must develop a ring system. That is the only topology that can avoid dynamic interactions and collisions, that is, once it has stabilised.
 
Berkeman, thank you for the thread.
 
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