Magnitude of the average force during a collision

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The discussion focuses on calculating the magnitude of the average force exerted between a baseball and a bat during a collision. Using the mass of the baseball (0.170 kg), initial velocity (36.0 m/s), height after collision (36.0 m), and contact time (2.0 ms), the average force is calculated using the formula Favg = Δp / Δt. The final calculation yields an average force of approximately 800.98 N, although the expected answer is 3800 N, indicating the need to consider vector directions in momentum calculations.

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Homework Statement



A 0.170-kg baseball pitched horizontally at 36.0 m/s strikes a bat and is popped straight up to a height of 36.0 m. If the contact time between bat and ball is 2.0 ms, calculate the magnitude of the average force between the ball and bat during contact.

##m_b=0.17kg##
##v=36.0m/s##
##h=36.0m##
##t=0.002s##

Homework Equations



##F_{avg}=\frac {\Delta p} {\Delta t}##

##KE_i=PE_f##

The Attempt at a Solution



Working with the first equation to get a form that uses the variables I've got.

##F_{avg}=\frac {\Delta p} {\Delta t}=\frac {p_f-p_i} {\Delta t}=\frac {m_bv'-m_bv} {\Delta t}=\frac {m_b(v'-v)} {\Delta t}##

Doing the same with the second equation, I can find an expression for the velocity of the ball after the collision.

##KE_i=PE_f##

##\frac 1 2 m_b(v')^2=m_bgh##

##v'=\sqrt {2gh}##

Plugging that back into the equation for the average force, I get

##F_{avg}=\frac {m_b(\sqrt {2gh}-v)} {\Delta t}##

Hey, I know all of those values!

##F_{avg}=\frac {(0.17)(\sqrt {2*9.81*36}-36)} {0.002}=-800.98N##

And since we're only concerned about the magnitude

##F_{avg}=800.98N##

The answer that I should be getting is

##F_{avg}=3800N##
 
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Note that momentum final initial and force are all vector quantities. So be careful in calculating change of momentum its direction and magnitude.
 
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