Magnitude of vector, negative in part.

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The discussion revolves around finding the magnitude of an acceleration vector expressed in polar coordinates, specifically involving components in the radial and angular directions.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula for the magnitude of a vector but encounters issues with negative terms under the radical when squaring components. They express uncertainty about their algebraic manipulation.
  • One participant reflects on their initial confusion regarding the inclusion of the angular component, suggesting that it may have affected their calculations.
  • Another participant offers comments on notation and formatting, which may help clarify future discussions.

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The conversation has evolved with participants providing insights and clarifications. While the original poster acknowledges a mistake in their calculations, they express appreciation for the guidance on notation, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector magnitude calculations in polar coordinates, with some confusion arising from algebraic manipulation and notation. There is no consensus on a final solution, but helpful tips have been shared.

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This is actually not a full problem, just a part of one I'm having trouble with:

Homework Statement



If I have a acceleration vector, say [ bk^{2}e^{kt} - bc^{2}e^{kt} ]e_{r} + [ 2bkce^{kt} ] e_{θ}. How can I find its magnitude?

Homework Equations



Mag vector |a| = (a^2)^(1/2)

The Attempt at a Solution



As I square _{e}r, the cross term is still negative under the radical, and doesn't subtract cleanly:

[ b^{2}k^{4}e^{kt} + b^{2}c^{4}e^{kt} - 2b^{2}k^{2}c^{2}e^{kt} ]^{1/2}

I'm either doing some wrong algebra or missing something obvious I think?
 
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Well I'm stupid.. neglected e_theta completely out of sheer confusion from the first part... guess what it does when you add it in.

...Maybe this thread should be deleted. U_U Sometimes I just need a new perspective I guess.
 
Glad it worked out. FYI, I have two comments to help you in the future:

1. Note that (e^{kt})^2 = e^{2kt}, \text{ not } e^{kt}

2. You can enclose an entire equation or large expression in itex-/itex tags, you do not need to use separate itex-/itex tags for selected terms.

So instead of

[ [itex]bk^{2}[/itex][itex]e^{kt}[/itex] - b[itex]c^{2}[/itex][itex]e^{kt}[/itex] ][itex]e_{r}[/itex] + [ 2bkc[itex]e^{kt}[/itex] ] [itex]e_{θ}[/itex]

you can write

[itex] [ bk^{2}e^{kt} - bc^{2}e^{kt} ] e_{r} + [ 2bkce^{kt} ] e_{θ} [/itex]

which gives you

[ bk^{2}e^{kt} - bc^{2}e^{kt} ] e_{r} + [ 2bkce^{kt} ] e_{θ}
 
Thanks Redbelly! I did have e^kt as e^2kt in my calculation, I just forgot to transcribe that correctly.

The itex thing on the other hand will probably save me some time on my next questions! :D
 

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