Understanding the Relationship Between Time and Magnetic Field Induction

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between time and magnetic field induction, specifically focusing on the induced electromotive force (emf) in a wire loop subjected to a changing magnetic field. Participants are exploring how the induced emf relates to the changing magnetic field over time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the notation used in the equations related to emf and magnetic flux. There are discussions about the implications of expressing emf in terms of time and the relationship between the variables involved.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants questioning the notation "emf(kt)" and its meaning. Some have suggested expressing emf and flux in terms of their respective variables and integrating, while others are clarifying the steps taken in the derivation process. There is an active exploration of the mathematical relationships involved.

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Homework Statement


A magnetic field perpendicular to the plane of a wire loop is uniform in space but changes with time tin the region of the loop. If the induced emf in the loop increases linearly with time t, then the magnitude of the magnetic field must be proportional to:
a)t^3
b)t^2 <answer
c)t
d)t^0
e)t^1/2

Can someone explain this

I did emf=dflux/dt
emf(kt)=BA
B is proportional to t right?
 
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I did emf=dflux/dt
emf(kt)=BA
I’m not understanding the notation on the left side of the second equation. What does emf(kt) mean?
 
TSny said:
I’m not understanding the notation on the left side of the second equation. What does emf(kt) mean?
kt to show t is linear
 
appliedF said:
kt to show t is linear
I'm still not understanding the notation emf(kt). Does it denote emf multiplied by kt? Or, is it saying that the emf is the same thing as kt? Or something else?

Going back to the previous equation, you have correctly stated that

emf = d(flux)/dt.

Express emf in terms of t on the left and express flux in terms of B and A on the right. After doing this, integrate both sides with respect to time.
 
TSny said:
I'm still not understanding the notation emf(kt). Does it denote emf multiplied by kt? Or, is it saying that the emf is the same thing as kt? Or something else?

Going back to the previous equation, you have correctly stated that

emf = d(flux)/dt.

Express emf in terms of t on the left and express flux in terms of B and A on the right. After doing this, integrate both sides with respect to time.
d(flux)/dt=AdB/dt
dt's would cancel out leaving d(flux)=AdB
flux/A=B
What am I missing here?
 
appliedF said:
d(flux)/dt=AdB/dt
dt's would cancel out leaving d(flux)=AdB
flux/A=B
What am I missing here?
There is nothing wrong here. I think the problem is how you are handling the left side of the equation emf = d(BA)/dt.

Can you explain in words the steps you took in getting from emf = d(BA)/dt to emf(kt) = BA? (I still don't understand the meaning of "emf(kt)".)

You went from emf = d(BA)/dt to emf(kt) = BA.

What operation did you perform on the right-hand side to get from d(BA)/dt to BA? Did you apply this same operation to the left side?
 
TSny said:
There is nothing wrong here. I think the problem is how you are handling the left side of the equation emf = d(BA)/dt.

Can you explain in words the steps you took in getting from emf = d(BA)/dt to emf(kt) = BA? (I still don't understand the meaning of "emf(kt)".)

You went from emf = d(BA)/dt to emf(kt) = BA.

What operation did you perform on the right-hand side to get from d(BA)/dt to BA? Did you apply this same operation to the left side?
t is linearly related to the emf, so i incorrectly changed dt to kt and multiplied it to emf and took out the derivative for BA.

But the dt's cancel out right? how do you get t^2
 
appliedF said:
t is linearly related to the emf
Yes, so emf = kt where k is a constant.

So, starting with emf = d(BA)/dt you can write

kt = d(BA)/dt.

Can you proceed from here?
 
TSny said:
Yes, so emf = kt where k is a constant.

So, starting with emf = d(BA)/dt you can write

kt = d(BA)/dt.

Can you proceed from here?
yes thanks bud
 

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