Make Red Colored Stars w/ Strontium Compounds

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The discussion revolves around the acquisition and use of strontium compounds, particularly strontium carbonate, for creating red-colored stars in pyrotechnics. Participants explore sources for these compounds, methods of extraction, and their effectiveness in producing desired flame colors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about where to acquire strontium carbonate and whether it can be found in household items.
  • Another participant mentions that red road flares often contain strontium nitrate and suggests a method for extraction using boiling water and filtering.
  • A different participant notes that strontium carbonate is commonly sold by pottery supply companies and can be used as a flame coloring agent, either in its carbonate form or after reacting with acids to produce other strontium salts.
  • One participant shares personal experience, stating that strontium compounds yield an orange-red flame rather than a pure red, and suggests lithium carbonate as an alternative for a more vibrant red color.
  • There are questions about the availability of strontium compounds at pottery stores, with some participants expressing confidence that they are fairly common.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that strontium compounds can be sourced from pottery supply companies and that road flares may contain strontium nitrate. However, there is no consensus on the exact flame color produced by strontium compounds, with differing opinions on the quality of the red color achieved.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the extraction methods and potential variations in flame color without resolving the effectiveness of different compounds or methods. There is also uncertainty regarding the specific availability of strontium compounds at pottery stores.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to hobbyists in pyrotechnics, chemistry enthusiasts, and individuals involved in pottery or related crafts looking to explore the use of strontium compounds for flame coloration.

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I am wanting to make red colored stars and I would like to know where strontium compounds can be acquired. is there some household items that contain these compounds. I specifically would like to get strontium carbonate. thank you
 
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Red road flares often contain strontium nitrate. Never tried to extract/use it myself, but the process should be quite simple.

See here: http://www.orionsignals.com/safetydata/fuseehighway.pdf for a typical MSDS for a road flare. I am not sure how much strontium nitrate you'd get, but it would certainly be enough for pyrotechnic mixtures. I would suggest extracting with boiling water, then filtering out the insoluble sulfur and binder. From there, add baking soda to precipitate out insoluble strontium carbonate.
 
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Strontium Carbonate is a fairly common, and relatively cheap, compound sold by pottery supply companies.
The SrCO3 can then be used as a red flame coloring agent either in its original Carbonate form, or it can be reacted with acids to produce other Strontium salts (like SrCl2 using HCl). You could also react SrCO3 with Nitric acid, providing you have any, to make Strontium Nitrate, both a flame colorant and an oxidizer in one.
Like Cesium said, Sr(NO3)2 is commonly used in road flares.
[Actually, a couple month’s back around the scene of a car accident . I started to smell something, something I recognized…I thought about it for a while and then it came to me…. “That’s the smell of Nitrates burning”, I checked, and yes, there were some Strontium Nitrate road flares which were set up by the cops.]

In my experience, Strontium Carbonate / Chloride gives more of an Orange-ish red than a red-red color in a flame. I like the reds obtained by using Lithium Carbonate (also a pottery supply).

http://www.amazingrust.com/Experiments/how_to/Images/Flame%20Test/Sr+2/Sr+2%20(SrCO3%20+%20SrCl2).jpg"
http://www.amazingrust.com/Experiments/how_to/Images/Flame%20Test/Li+/Li+1%20(LiCO3%20+%20LiCl).jpg"
 
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thanks for the advise now i have to find some pottery stores around here. Will any pottery store have strontium compounds.
 
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Will any pottery store have strontium compounds.
Probably, I think it is fairly common.
 

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