Managing Telescope Aiming: a Sky-Watcher Challenge

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of aiming and balancing a Sky-Watcher 10" Dobsonian telescope. Participants share their experiences and seek solutions for improving the telescope's stability and ease of use, particularly when using different eyepieces. The scope of the discussion includes practical adjustments, equipment modifications, and considerations for alternative mounting options.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with the difficulty of centering objects in the telescope, especially when using a 10mm eyepiece, and seeks suggestions for improvement.
  • Another suggests using a counter-weight to balance the telescope, indicating that this might be a common practice among users of Dobsonian telescopes.
  • A participant shares their experience of using a 5lb dumbbell as a temporary counter-weight, noting that it worked for low-angle viewing but caused issues when aiming upward.
  • Suggestions include attaching a rail-mount to the telescope's tube to allow for adjustable counter-weights, with references to potential products available for purchase or DIY solutions.
  • Some participants inquire about guides or resources for assembling counter-weight systems, expressing interest in seeing examples from others before making purchases.
  • There is a discussion about the feasibility and cost of mounting the telescope to an equatorial (EQ) mount, with concerns raised about balance issues due to the design of the Dobsonian.
  • One participant points out that EQ mounts can be expensive and may not resolve the balance issues without additional adjustments or counter-weights.
  • Another participant describes their method of counter-balancing using bean-bags filled with lead shot, indicating that practical solutions can vary widely among users.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the best methods for balancing and aiming the telescope, with no clear consensus on a single solution. Some agree on the utility of counter-weights, while others question the effectiveness of EQ mounts for their specific setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various limitations and dependencies, such as the need for specific parts, the weight of different eyepieces, and the design of the telescope itself, which may affect balance and aiming. There are also references to the costs associated with different mounting options.

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..sucks. I have the Sky-Watcher 10" dob (got it for xmas). All around, it's a great scope for the cost, and produces some very crisp visuals of surprisingly distant objects... when it can center on them. I find myself having to constantly aim higher than the object so my telescope will "fall" onto it and hopefully stay. It's getting very annoying, and when friends come over to check it out I find myself saying "hurry and look while you can still see it". The mount has 2 handles screwing into each side of the scope, one handle with a ball-bearing for tightening, but even that doesn't do the trick, no matter how hard I tighten it. It's managable with a 25mm ep, but when I put in my 10mm, it's near impossible to center on an object.. Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this problem?
 
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You need a counter-weight to balance the 'scope. It shouldn't be too tough to cobble one up.
 
Yea last night I was pretty desperate and strapped a 5lb. dumbbell on it with my belt. It was good when I looked at things near the horizon.. but when I had to aim up, it was too heavy and kept drifting up. Are counter-weights a regular part of viewing with a dob for everyone else? If so.. damn. I need to save up for an eq mount.
 
Consider buying a rail-mount and bolting it to the top of the Dob's tube. That way you can clamp a counterweight into the rail and slide it back and forth as needed. Orion may have something off-the-shelf. If not, it should be easy enough to make one at home.
 
Is there an guide on what parts to get/how to assemble one anywhere? Sounds like a useful investment.. it'd just be nice to see how other people have done it before I go blow $40 at home depot.
 
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/h/3397

This guy uses 19 oz magnets wrapped in duct tape. If your tube is steel, that would work fine. If not, check out telescope.com . That's Orion, and they have a dovetail mounting plate that you may be able to adapt to.
 
Is there a way to mount my telescope to an eq mount?
 
Codester09 said:
Is there a way to mount my telescope to an eq mount?
Yes, you can do that, but the mount is going to cost you way more than the entire Dob' cost. GEQ's large and massive enough to handle 10" Newtonian OTAs are expensive - especially if you up-size with the intention of adding guidescope, camera, etc.
 
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http://gibbscamerahouse.com.au/images/COLDOB10sm.gif

if you look at my scope, you'll probably notice that when extended, the actual "tube" part isn't near the middle of the scope.. if I mounted it with an eq, i don't think the fulcrum would be centered. i think i'd have the same balance issues unless you can see a way around it.
 
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Codester09 said:
http://gibbscamerahouse.com.au/images/COLDOB10sm.gif

if you look at my scope, you'll probably notice that when extended, the actual "tube" part isn't near the middle of the scope.. if I mounted it with an eq, i don't think the fulcrum would be centered. i think i'd have the same balance issues unless you can see a way around it.
Most EQ mounts have a flat plate that accepts an adapter plate that you have to attach to your OTA near the balance-point. If you want a decent guide-scope later, you can install a dovetail rail on the OTA, and use the placement of the guide-scope to fine-tune the balance. You still might need supplemental counter-weights in instances where you want to use barlows and heavy EPs in your focuser, or attach a camera. It's not rocket science, but it's not always obvious what will work. I had a SC that I sometimes piggy-backed 35mm or medium format cameras on. I counter-balanced the OTA using plastic bean-bags full of lead shot, and attaching them temporarily with skinny bungies. It didn't look too high-tech, but it worked.
 
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