Manipulating Equations with Trigonometric Identities

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The discussion revolves around manipulating a mathematical expression involving trigonometric identities, specifically focusing on the equation 8 - {[(4(rcos(x))^2 +4(rsin(x)^2)^2] / 2}. Participants are attempting to simplify or transform this expression to achieve a specific form.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of FOIL and the Pythagorean identity in their attempts to manipulate the expression. There are questions regarding the correctness of the initial formulation and terminology, with some participants pointing out that the expression lacks an equality sign, thus questioning its classification as an equation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using basic trigonometric identities before expanding the expression. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct terminology and formulation of the problem, with no explicit consensus reached on the manipulation process.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential miscommunication regarding the nature of the expression being discussed, as well as possible typographical errors in the original formulation. Participants are also navigating the implications of terminology in mathematical discourse.

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Homework Statement


I just want to manipulate this equation

Homework Equations


8 - {[(4(rcos(x))^2 +4(rsin(x)^2)^2] / 2}

I should have:

8-8r^4

The Attempt at a Solution



I used FOIL and the Pythagorean identity to get:

8- {[16r^4 + (32r^4sin(x)^2cos(x)^2)] / 2}

which is wrong
 
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shreddinglicks said:

Homework Statement


I just want to manipulate this equation

Homework Equations


8 - {[(4(rcos(x))^2 +4(rsin(x)^2)^2] / 2}

I should have:

8-8r^4

The Attempt at a Solution



I used FOIL and the Pythagorean identity to get:

8- {[16r^4 + (32r^4sin(x)^2cos(x)^2)] / 2}

which is wrong

Use the basic trig identity involving ##\sin^2x## and ##\cos^2 x## before expanding.
 
shreddinglicks said:

Homework Statement


I just want to manipulate this equation

Homework Equations


8 - {[(4(rcos(x))^2 +4(rsin(x)^2)^2] / 2}
That's not an equation. The tipoff that it isn't an equation is that no = sign appears anywhere in this expression.
 
Thanks, I got the answer. Much easier than what I did the 1st time.
 

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Mark44 said:
That's not an equation. The tipoff that it isn't an equation is that no = sign appears anywhere in this expression.

It's part of an equation.
 

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shreddinglicks said:
It's part of an equation.
Not relevant.

What you said was "I just want to manipulate this equation." but what you showed is not an equation. That was my point. It's not a major thing, but it is important to get the terminology right so as to be able to communicate effectively.
 
Also, I believe you typed your equation wrong.
you typed:
8 - {[(4(rcos(x))^2 +4(rsin(x)^2)^2] / 2}
I think you meant to type
8 - {[(4(rcos(x))^2 +4(rsin(x)^2)]^2 / 2}
 

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