Mass and pulley system (Rotational Dynamics)

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a mass and pulley system within the context of rotational dynamics. The scenario includes a pulley with a mass-less cord, a hanging block, and an electric motor supplying torque. Participants are tasked with calculating torque, moment of inertia, and angular acceleration.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of torque due to the hanging block and the moment of inertia of the pulley. Some express uncertainty regarding missing information necessary for solving the problem, particularly the mass of the pulley. Others attempt calculations but question the accuracy of their units and methods.

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The discussion has evolved with participants providing attempts at calculations and raising questions about the correctness of their approaches. Some have offered guidance on checking units and calculations, while others have pointed out the need for additional information to proceed effectively.

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There was initial confusion regarding the mass of the pulley, which was later provided. Participants are also discussing the implications of this information on their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Consider a pulley with a mass-less cord attached to its edge. The rope hangs a distance of d= 2.50 m below the bottom of the pulley. Attached to the end of this cord is a block with mass 3.00 kg. There is also an electric motor attached to the pulley which supplies a torque of 28.7 N * m. The pulley can be considered a disk with a radius of 0.65 m.

a) What is the torque due to the hanging block?
b) what is the moment of inertia of the pulley?
c) Once the motor is turned on the pulley begins to rotate counter clock-wise. What is the magnitude of the angular acceleration of the pulley?

Homework Equations


I = 0.5 * m * r^2 (moment of inertia)

The Attempt at a Solution



a) Torque= m*g*d ---> Torque = 3.00 * 9.80 * 2.50 = 73.5 N * m

b) I'm stuck on how to find the moment of inertia here because no mass was given for the pulley itself.
 

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Looks to me like there's some information missing. Is this the problem, word for word? Is it from a textbook?
 
Doc Al said:
Is this the problem, word for word? Is it from a textbook?

yes that is the problem
 
More info is needed to solve the problem, even for part a. The torque on the pulley due to the hanging block depends on the tension in the cord, which cannot be solved for without additional information.
 
Okay i asked, the info was missing. The mass of the pulley is 1.3 kg.
 
Okay so the moment of inertia is 0.4225 kg * m.
The angular acceleration, that I calculated, is 1.10 m/s^2
 
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ikihi said:
Okay so the moment of inertia is 0.4225 kg * m.
The angular acceleration, that I calculated, is 1.10 m/s^2
I think you forgot to square the radius when you calculated the moment of inertia -- check your units.

When you redo your calculation of the angular acceleration, show how you did it. (Check your units there also.)
 
ikihi said:
Okay so the moment of inertia is 0.4225 kg * m.
The angular acceleration, that I calculated, is 1.10 m/s^2
That has the wrong units for angular acceleration.
Please post all your working.
 
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzRa737UkAAqYIj.jpg:large
 
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ikihi said:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzRa737UkAAqYIj.jpg:large

That looks lke the right answer.
But in future, please do not post working as an image. Take the trouble to type it in. That guarantees legibility and makes it possible to comment on individual lines, e.g. to point out an error. Images are really for book extracts and diagrams.
 
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