Mass of a block via kinetic friction

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The problem involves two blocks connected over a pulley, with one block on an incline experiencing kinetic friction. The original poster seeks to determine the mass of the second block based on the given parameters of the first block, including its mass, the coefficient of kinetic friction, and the angle of the incline.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to establish equations for the forces acting on both blocks but expresses uncertainty about how to compute the tension in the system without a second equation. They question the absence of a normal force on the second block and explore the implications of tension exceeding the weight of the second block.

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Participants are actively discussing the setup of the problem, with some suggesting a coordinate system aligned with the incline to simplify the analysis. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance on analyzing forces in relation to the incline has been offered.

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The discussion highlights the challenge of analyzing forces in a system with multiple components and the need for clarity regarding the roles of tension and friction in the context of the problem.

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[SOLVED] Mass of a block via kinetic friction

Homework Statement



In Fig, two blocks are connected over a pulley. The mass of block A is 5.9 kg and the coefficient of kinetic friction between A and the incline is 0.36. Angle θ of the incline is 43°. Block A slides down the incline at constant speed. What is the mass of block B?

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OK so I'm unsure of how how to compute this question. I'm going to need to find the tension in this problem in order to find the mass of block two correct?

So for m1:
Fy = N-mg+(Tsin43-(Tsin133 [90+43 for the Fk force]*.36))

How do I solve for T here if I don't have a second equation to help me solve? There isn't a normal force on block B seeing as it is in the air so I couldn't impose the two to get rid of N right?

Fx = Tcos(43)-Tcos(133)*.36

Is this correct?

For m2:
Fy = T-mg
Fx = No movement

T>mg or block A would not be in kinetic friction.


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AnkhUNC said:
So for m1:
Fy = N-mg+(Tsin43-(Tsin133 [90+43 for the Fk force]*.36))

How do I solve for T here if I don't have a second equation to help me solve? There isn't a normal force on block B seeing as it is in the air so I couldn't impose the two to get rid of N right?

Fx = Tcos(43)-Tcos(133)*.36

Is this correct?
This will be a bit easier to analyze using axes that are parallel and perpendicular to the plane, instead of horizontal and vertical.

For m2:
Fy = T-mg
Fx = No movement

T>mg or block A would not be in kinetic friction.
If T > mg, the blocks would accelerate.
 
Well that's sort of what I'm trying to do. I'm making the friction and tension south west and north east respectively. I kind of figured the way I set that up was incorrect but I haven't had to do two forces at the same time before.
 
For mass A, choose your x-axis as parallel to the incline and your y-axis as perpendicular. Then only the weight will need to be broken into components.
 

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