Mass of a galaxy without dark matter and with dark matter

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mass of galaxies in relation to dark matter, exploring the implications of having galaxies with and without dark matter. Participants examine the ratios of dark matter to visible matter, the characteristics of different types of galaxies, and the effects of dark matter on galaxy formation and mass distribution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that without dark matter, galaxies would not exist as they do, as dark matter plays a crucial role in attracting regular matter.
  • There is a discussion about the typical ratio of dark matter to visible matter in galaxies, with some proposing it to be around 85:15, though this is not universally accepted.
  • Participants note the existence of both dark matter-rich and dark matter-poor galaxies, indicating variability in dark matter distribution.
  • One participant raises a question about the behavior of dark matter halos during galaxy collisions, speculating on the possibility of dark matter escaping and leaving behind a dark matter-poor galaxy.
  • There is a mention of the Bullet Cluster as an example where dark matter distribution differs from visible matter distribution.
  • Some participants express confusion about the relationship between galaxy mass and dark matter, questioning whether dark matter consistently increases galaxy mass by a factor of six.
  • Discussions include references to academic resources that explore the presence and effects of dark matter in various galaxies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact implications of dark matter on galaxy mass or the ratios involved. Multiple competing views remain regarding the role of dark matter in galaxy formation and the variability in dark matter content across different galaxies.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and implications of dark matter ratios, and there are unresolved questions about the effects of dark matter on galaxy mass and structure. The discussion reflects a range of understandings and assumptions about dark matter's role in astrophysics.

  • #31
"Galaxy mass" includes the dark part.

Your galaxy would (on average) have 4m dark matter and 1m visible matter (more precise: baryonic matter), for a total of 5m. 80% of the 5m are dark.
 
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  • #32
Ok thanks
 
  • #33
Checked post # 10, but wonder, has there been a galaxy the Hubble has locked on, that does not have dark matter to some degree? My questions: what is DM and what is its reason for its being, if in fact it exists?
 
  • #35
Quarlep said:
I am curious about mass of a galaxy without dark matter and with dark matter.I searched but I couldn't found.I ll be happy If you help me.

Thanks
There are many Theories which define the start of universe differently. 1 among them say that universe begin with the break down of black holes and would end when entire mass of universe is pulled back by black hole. Yet the reality is undiscovered :)
 
  • #36
officialmanojsh said:
There are many Theories which define the start of universe differently. 1 among them say that universe begin with the break down of black holes and would end when entire mass of universe is pulled back by black hole. Yet the reality is undiscovered :)
I am not aware of mainstream theories suggesting that. Please give a source for that claim.
 
  • #38
That is a news article, I was asking for a peer-reviewed publication (see our forum rules). News articles nearly always get the science wrong. The preprint linked there is not peer-reviewed, and it does not describe what you wrote in your previous post.
 

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