Mass of ions with respect to amu

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The discussion centers on the calculation of atomic mass units (amu) for ions, specifically sodium ions (Na+) in the formation of sodium chloride (NaCl). The standard atomic weight of sodium is 22.99 g/mol, which is a weighted average of its isotopes, and the mass of the electron is often disregarded due to its negligible weight of approximately 0.000544662 amu. While this omission is generally acceptable for most calculations, it becomes less significant only when dealing with large quantities, such as millions of moles, where the cumulative effect may be more pronounced but does not affect the overall error percentage.

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Dear all,

I have a question concerning a basic chemistry topic: atomic mass units. The current amu system defines 1 amu = 1/12 of a Carbon-12 isotope (about 1.66 * 10^-27 kg). Therefore, every other atom is assigned a amu value based upon its relationship to Carbon-12.

My question concerns ions. Given the following elementary reaction,

Na+ + Cl- ⇔ NaCl

Any general chemistry student can calculate mass of Na+ required to produce one mole of NaCl. However, when calculating the value for Na+ we calculate the value using 22.99 g/mol. Why is that? I understand that this value is a weighted average of relative abundances of Na isoptopes. But why do we ignore the mass of the electron? Is it due to the fact that an electron weighs about 1/1836 the mass of a proton? If this is true, then isn't this assumption limited (for as you increase the number of moles, the number of atoms increases in relation to avogadros number... which would eventually make the mass of the one less electron a non=ignorable factor). Thanks for the help!
 
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johnny_b_good said:
Dear all,

I have a question concerning a basic chemistry topic: atomic mass units. The current amu system defines 1 amu = 1/12 of a Carbon-12 isotope (about 1.66 * 10^-27 kg). Therefore, every other atom is assigned a amu value based upon its relationship to Carbon-12.

My question concerns ions. Given the following elementary reaction,

Na+ + Cl- ⇔ NaCl

Any general chemistry student can calculate mass of Na+ required to produce one mole of NaCl. However, when calculating the value for Na+ we calculate the value using 22.99 g/mol. Why is that? I understand that this value is a weighted average of relative abundances of Na isoptopes. But why do we ignore the mass of the electron? Is it due to the fact that an electron weighs about 1/1836 the mass of a proton? If this is true, then isn't this assumption limited (for as you increase the number of moles, the number of atoms increases in relation to avogadros number... which would eventually make the mass of the one less electron a non=ignorable factor). Thanks for the help!

You've got the right idea. If you wanted to calculate more precisely, you could try and find more precise data, with more decimal places. An electron weighs 0.000544662 amu, so you could subtract that amount from your value. Most of the time this will be insignificant.

If you're looking at millions of moles, this value will be larger, but your error percentage will remain the same.
 

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