Mass of solid water and gaseous water?

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The discussion focuses on a thermodynamics problem involving the phase changes of water and carbon dioxide. A 1 kg block of solid carbon dioxide at -80 degrees Celsius is placed in a closed container with 1 kg of water at 25 degrees Celsius, resulting in a final temperature of 0 degrees Celsius. The final phases are determined to be liquid water, solid water, and gaseous water, with specific heat capacities and heat of phase changes provided for accurate calculations. The user seeks guidance on calculating the final masses of each phase of water after the interaction with carbon dioxide.

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  • Understanding of thermodynamic principles, specifically heat transfer and phase changes.
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  • Calculate the final mass of liquid water using the equation Q = mc[delta]T.
  • Determine the mass of solid water using the heat of fusion and the remaining energy after cooling the liquid water.
  • Analyze the energy balance to find the mass of gaseous water produced from the phase changes.
  • Explore the implications of sublimation and the specific heat of carbon dioxide in similar thermodynamic problems.
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Homework Statement


a 1kg of Water at 25 degrees celsius is in a container. A solid block of 1kg Carbon Dioxide at its sublimation temp of -80 degrees celcious is placed into the container, with the lid then closed.
Final temperature of entire system = 0 degrees celsius
Final phase of the Carbon Dioxide is gas

*What is the final mass of the liquid H20, solid H20, and gaseous H20?

Homework Equations


Heat of Vap of Water = 2000 kj/kg
Heat of Melt of Water = 300 kj/kg
Csp of Water = 4 kj/kg
Csp of CO2 gas = 1 kj/kg
Heat of Sub of CO2 = 200 kj/kg

[delta]Ethermal = mc[delta]T
[delta]Ebond = ([delta]m)([delta]Heat of...)


The Attempt at a Solution


From what I understand, the H20's conditions change as follows:
Temp Initial = 25 degrees celsius
Temp Final = 0 degrees celcious
Phase Initial = Liquid
Phase Final = Solid

Thus, the H20 will have its thermal energy increasing and its bond energy increasing as well.

As for the CO2's conditions:
Temp Initial = -80 degrees celsius
Temp Final = 0 degrees celsius
Phase Intial = Solid
Phase Final = Gas

Since it is at it's sublimation temperature, it will skip over its intermediate state as a liquid and its thermal energy is increasing and its bond energy decreasing.

So, to find the final mass of the liquid water, do I just use:
[delta]Ethermal = Q
mc[delta]t = Q
(1kg)(4kj/kg K)(0celcius-25celcius) = Q
-100 kj = Q

[delta]m = Q/[delta]Heat of...
[delta]m = -100/300 kg/kg <-- do I use Heat of melting for the liquid phase?

What should be the next step I take in finding the mass of solid water and gaseous water?
 
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Assume that a portion of the H2O is in the form of liquid. Work out an algebraic formula for the heat flow in terms of the quantity of liquid and solid H2O. You know that they sum to 1 kg. Use the specific heat of liquid water for the entire mass of H2O but use the specific heat of fusion only for the portion that ends up as ice.

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