Master's in Engineering Without Engineering Undergrad

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations of pursuing a Master's in Engineering Management without an undergraduate degree in engineering. Participants explore potential career paths, the value of different concentrations within the program, and the job market implications of their educational background.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the employability of graduates from the MS Engineering program without an engineering undergraduate degree, particularly in government roles.
  • Another participant suggests that having a Master's in Engineering Management could still provide an advantage over candidates with only a business degree when applying for project management positions.
  • There is a discussion about the potential for entry-level roles such as business analyst and whether these positions are realistic for someone without an engineering background.
  • A participant mentions a developing interest in control theory and questions whether switching to a concentration in control systems would enhance job eligibility for entry-level controls engineer positions.
  • One response indicates a belief that pursuing both project management and business analyst roles could be viable options, although the responder admits their experience may not fully apply to the questions posed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that having a Master's in Engineering Management can be beneficial, but there is uncertainty about the specific job market dynamics and the impact of lacking an engineering undergraduate degree. Multiple views on the viability of different career paths remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of experience and knowledge regarding job market expectations and the relevance of different educational backgrounds. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges in transitioning into engineering-related roles without a traditional engineering degree.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a Master's in Engineering Management without an engineering undergraduate degree, those exploring career paths in project management or business analysis, and students interested in control systems may find this discussion relevant.

Mathos
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Hi,

My undergrad degree is sort of nebulous; mostly math and physics, with some graduate math thrown in. I'm enrolled in UW Platteville's MS Engineering program for the Engineering Management emphasis. Although I'm impressed with the courses I've taken so far, I know that getting a job as a proper engineer is likely not possible given my non-engineering undergrad. I'd like to be able to break into an entry level systems, business analyst, project management, or IE-type role, but I've heard from friends (in government/government contractor jobs, which is where I'd like to work) that the lack of an engineering qualification would give my resume the old garbage toss.

I thought I'd see if:
a) Switching to an emphasis in control systems would make the degree more valuable. I know I said I'd rather do more systems-type stuff, but getting a job outweighs all that.

b) Anyone has or knows anyone or has a master's in EM without an engineering BS and/or knows about UW Platteville's program
Here is the page listing degree requirements:

https://www.uwplatt.edu/distance-education/ms-engineering-degree-requirements
 
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I think everyone I know with an engineering management masters has an engineering undergrad. But if you are trying to be a project manager, you will still be a giant step ahead of a PM who has just a business degree, which you do see in corporate America.

It's a large first step, so getting your first job may be a bit of a challenge, but once you get it, you'll have a faster track up the corporate ladder.

Remember, when you are a project manager of larger projects it isn't possible to have all of the expertise of all of the disciplines you are managing and having a strong background in one of those areas doesn't help you with the others. What is imoprtant is a technical brain to understand problems you've never seen before, an analytical brain to make good decisions and people and communication skills to execute them (the decisions, not the people).
 
Thanks for responding. I think I've heard of one other person (on a forum, not even in real life) getting an EM master's without an engineering undergrad. I forgot to ask of that guy got a job afterwards...

Project management is something I'd definitely be interested in, but I assumed there would be a lower rung job before getting there. Would pursuing jobs with the 'business analyst' title be realistic? I suppose right now I'm a little worried about which search terms I'd enter into a job board (which, now that I say it, reminds me of what a strange world we live in).

Also, I think I may have a developing interest in control theory. I've heard there are shortages in the field, so do you think switching my concentration-- which is only a three course sequence--- to control systems might make me eligible for entry level controls engineer jobs?
 
I would think the answer to both questions is "yes", but they are a bit too specific for my experience to be relevant.
 
Ok, thanks again.
 

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