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The discussion revolves around the Cauchy criterion for sequences and series, particularly focusing on the convergence properties of a given sequence. Participants explore the definitions and implications of Cauchy sequences and their relation to convergence.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants examine the definition of a Cauchy sequence and its application to a specific series. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between terms in the sequence and to establish bounds for convergence. Questions arise regarding the correctness of setups and assumptions made in the analysis.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the proper interpretation of terms and conditions for convergence, though no consensus has been reached on the final conclusions.

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There are references to specific examples and definitions from textbooks, as well as a focus on ensuring that the conditions for Cauchy sequences are correctly applied. Some participants express uncertainty about their previous statements and seek clarification on the implications of their findings.

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I know the Cauchy criterion for a convergent sequence. A Cauchy sequence is one in which the distance between successive terms becomes smaller and smaller. You can find a number N such that the terms after that, pairwise, have a a distance that is less than epsilon.

After looking at an example in the book, I was able to write this down. It would appear that the sequence converges to zero since the numerator is bounded by -1 and 1. It looks like the Cauchy criterion for convergent series is satisfied too since you can make m and n and a function of epsilon. However, I'm not too sure about my work.

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You could just explain what a Cauchy sequence is just by giving the definition, though your description is reasonable.

As for you working can you walk me through what you have done, its not clear in the photo. I find it easier if you type the work in herer, the nI can just cut paste s& edit as required
 
lanedance said:
You could just explain what a Cauchy sequence is just by giving the definition, though your description is reasonable.

As for you working can you walk me through what you have done, its not clear in the photo. I find it easier if you type the work in herer, the nI can just cut paste s& edit as required

Yeah, when I write up the homework I'll simply put down the definition of a Cauchy sequence.

I wrote down the difference of the sm and sn terms with m > n. If I correctly setup the relation, it seems that the terms are less than (m-n)/2m since the numerator is bounded and the denominator becomes increasingly larger. If that's true, then I assert you can find an arbitrary epsilon by making m, n a function of epsilon.
 
If m > n, then the terms on the left would be strictly less than (m-n)/2^n, correct? Since making the denominator smaller makes the term bigger, you want the smaller of the two denominators to serve as your upper bound.
 
kru_ said:
If m > n, then the terms on the left would be strictly less than (m-n)/2^n, correct? Since making the denominator smaller makes the term bigger, you want the smaller of the two denominators to serve as your upper bound.

Right. So I'm thinking this series is convergent.
 
Actually, I think I have it backwards. I'm changing n > m.

It looks like sn - sm < (n-m)/2m.

So, for an arbitrary epsilon I should be able to find an N such that m,n > N implies the difference is less than epsilon.
 
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Shackleford said:
I know the Cauchy criterion for a convergent sequence. A Cauchy sequence is one in which the distance between successive terms becomes smaller and smaller.
This statement is untrue. For example, the series
\sum \frac{1}{n}
has "distance between successive termsj"
\frac{1}{n}- \frac{1}{n+1}= \frac{1}{n(n+1)}
which goes to 0 but is NOT a Cauchy sequence.

You can find a number N such that the terms after that, pairwise, have a a distance that is less than epsilon.
Okay, this is better. The distance between terms, pairwise, is |a_n- a_m| and that must go to 0, for any m and n, not just |a_{n+1}- a_n|

After looking at an example in the book, I was able to write this down. It would appear that the sequence converges to zero since the numerator is bounded by -1 and 1. It looks like the Cauchy criterion for convergent series is satisfied too since you can make m and n and a function of epsilon. However, I'm not too sure about my work.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n149/camarolt4z28/Untitled-1.png

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n149/camarolt4z28/IMG_20111116_173313.jpg
 
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HallsofIvy said:
This statement is untrue. For example, the series
\sum \frac{1}{n}
has "distance between successive termsj"
\frac{1}{n}- \frac{1}{n+1}= \frac{1}{n(n+1)}
which goes to 0 but is NOT a Cauchy sequence. Okay, this is better. The distance between terms, pairwise, is |a_n- a_m| and that must go to 0, for any m and n, not just |a_{n+1}- a_n|

The book works your example, too. Going by the definition for my problem

|s_{n}- s_m| < (n-m)/2m
 
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The relation in my previous post looks wrong. Using some convergence tests, I'm fairly certainly this series does converge. I found my error. This should be correct.

|s_{n}- s_m| < [1/2n] + [1/2m]

The sequence converges to zero which implies the series converges.
 
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