Math "road map" for learning college math

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around creating a structured learning path for college-level mathematics, particularly for engineering students who feel their current curriculum lacks depth. Participants explore various mathematical topics and their relevance to engineering, seeking an ordered list of subjects to study after high school mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a specific ordered list of mathematical topics to study after high school, emphasizing the need for a solid foundation before advancing.
  • Another participant suggests a sequence of topics including basic mathematics, algebra, trigonometry, and calculus, but notes that the order may depend on regional educational structures.
  • A different participant expresses concern about the lack of understanding in applied mathematics courses, suggesting that foundational topics like linear algebra and group theory are essential for grasping advanced concepts like Fourier transforms.
  • Some participants recommend resources such as books on "math for scientists and engineers," which typically cover a range of topics including integrals, transforms, and differential equations, but note that the importance of each topic may vary by specialization.
  • One participant emphasizes the need to review familiar subjects to fill in gaps and suggests using application-focused resources like Schaum's Outline series.
  • Another participant highlights the necessity of certain courses like trigonometry, calculus, and differential equations for all engineering students, while also acknowledging that some may require additional topics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational mathematics for engineering but do not reach a consensus on a specific ordered list of topics. Multiple competing views on the necessary subjects and their sequence remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the prerequisites for various math courses and how they relate to specific engineering disciplines. The discussion reflects a diversity of educational backgrounds and regional differences in curriculum structure.

Who May Find This Useful

Engineering students seeking guidance on structuring their mathematics education, educators looking for insights into student needs, and individuals interested in the mathematical foundations relevant to engineering disciplines.

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Hey people, I study engineering but our math is very poor here. We basically do high school maths with the addition of slightly complicated integrals. So here is the deal. As I want to be a better engineer I'm asking someone to give me specific ordered list of what math's I should attack next, after high school maths. I was really good at HS Calculus and have strong foundation of math before it (I think!). Now I want to have ordered list such that, when I start learning first one from the list it assumes you have good foundation of previous ones and no more than that! So I need some kind of a algorithm of math learning. Thanks in advance!
 
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This depends on the way topics and courses are formed in the region or districts where you are.

One set of routes can be this:
(drawing a map-like structure would be better than what I'm showing here)

Arithmetic and Basic Mathematics, including , "Consumer Mathematics", Measurements, Simple Statistics and Data and Commonest of Geometry; Introductory Algebra, Geometry, Intermediate Algebra, Trigonometry, College Algebra or College Algebra & Trigonometry (Precalculus); Calculus & Analytic Geometry 1, 2, 3, ...

Check with your colleges or universities further for their programs and courses.
 
Thanks! They are formed in such a fashion where we are doing them and don't have proper understanding of maths behind and all we get is something like this "Here is Fourier transform, here are their properties. Let's do some basic problems. Done!". In my opinion you first need to ponder Linear algebra and group theory (not sure if only that, but as far as I am reading) in order to fully appreciate FT not just seeing it as something descended from God. Well, I need opinions from people like you for example to tell what every engineer (no matter what branch) needs to know in maths to be called AN engineer after finishing faculty.
 
I hate when they try to teach you the math in courses to which they apply. It is often incomplete and does not give you enough time to fully become accustom to the intricacies of the math.

Have you tried googling "math for scientists and engineers" for appropriate books. Typically they will cover more or less multiple integrals, Fourier and Laplace transforms, linear algebra/matrices, ordinary differential equations, partial differential equations/special functions, vector analysis(calculus). complex analysis, probability/statistics. Depending on your specialization some are more important than others.
 
gleem said:
I hate when they try to teach you the math in courses to which they apply. It is often incomplete and does not give you enough time to fully become accustom to the intricacies of the math.

Have you tried googling "math for scientists and engineers" for appropriate books. Typically they will cover more or less multiple integrals, Fourier and Laplace transforms, linear algebra/matrices, ordinary differential equations, partial differential equations/special functions, vector analysis(calculus). complex analysis, probability/statistics. Depending on your specialization some are more important than others.

me too! and yes I have searched for it but I don't know in which order I should learn. I don't want to just "try something new" and after few lections find out I've just wasted my time and I had to already learn something before it in order to understand it. so I'm not telling "math roadmap" in order to sound fancy. :D
 
I would review the subjects that I am familiar with first to see If I have missed something fill in any holes so to speak Find book withs applications like Schaums's Outline series. I'm a physicist but like applications so I would concentrate the math that will be relevant to the engineering courses that you will be taking. What type of engineering are you interested in?
 
Additionally to the "road map" given, be sure to check the PROGRAM in which you hope to enter, and read the listed Math courses and their prerequisite courses. ALL engineering students will need Trigonometry, Calculus & Analytic Geometry 1,2,3, and a course or combination course on Differential Equations and Linear Algebra. AT LEAST..., and some may need or want more.
 
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gleem said:
I would review the subjects that I am familiar with first to see If I have missed something fill in any holes so to speak Find book withs applications like Schaums's Outline series. I'm a physicist but like applications so I would concentrate the math that will be relevant to the engineering courses that you will be taking. What type of engineering are you interested in?

teletraffic engineering but I would like to have math knowledge to understand "general math for engineer no matter which branch" if I ever want to orient towards something else, but basically physics and math you need to know for electrical engineering is almost the same as for teletraffic and other related programes
 

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