Mathematics for dancing laser beam

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The discussion centers on the mathematical principles behind laser beam patterns, specifically Lissajous figures, which are generated through the manipulation of two frequencies. Participants reference chaos theory and ordinary differential equations as foundational concepts for understanding these shapes. A user shares their experience with a 2-D laser deflection mirror driven by a 50Hz-100Hz waveform for horizontal movement, while the vertical movement is controlled by an audio signal. The conversation emphasizes the importance of frequency synchronization in creating visually appealing patterns.

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  • Understanding of Lissajous curves and their mathematical representation
  • Familiarity with chaos theory and strange attractors
  • Knowledge of ordinary differential equations
  • Experience with audio signal processing and waveform generation
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  • Research the mathematical properties of Lissajous curves
  • Explore chaos theory applications in visual arts
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This discussion is beneficial for mathematicians, physicists, artists working with visual displays, and audio engineers interested in the intersection of sound and visual art through laser technology.

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Is there a math that describes these shapes at least one frequency?
 
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I would say that these are strange attractors that are dealt with in chaos theory. The more regular shapes are closed paths in the vector fields of ordinary differential equations, basically also attractors.
 
sergiokapone said:
Is there a math that describes these shapes at least one frequency?
Back in undergrad, I made a 2-D laser deflection mirror that I could drive in the horizontal axis with a lower-frequency waveform (like 50Hz-100Hz), and I drove the music signal into the vertical deflection circuit. You could adjust the horizontal sinusoid to get the best Lissajous figures for each particular piece of (rock) music. Very fun...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lissajous_curve
 
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Well, if there were always Lissajous curves, then everything is fine. But sometimes closed curves are obtained, which are far from similar to such figures.
 
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Well, if there were always Lissajous curves, then everything is fine. But sometimes closed curves are obtained, which are far from similar to such figures.
Can you e-mail the person who created that figure and other similar figures? Perhaps they would share their setup details with you.
 
It looks as if there are just two cycles of X and Y, as I can see ends to the pattern. The existence of an enclosed area means the two waves are out of phase, having a quadrature component. It looks as if they are the same frequency, as we do not see a figure-of-eight in the pattern, but the wave shapes look non sinusoidal, maybe rectified sine wave.
 
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berkeman said:
Back in undergrad, I made a 2-D laser deflection mirror that I could drive in the horizontal axis with a lower-frequency waveform (like 50Hz-100Hz), and I drove the music signal into the vertical deflection circuit. You could adjust the horizontal sinusoid to get the best Lissajous figures for each particular piece of (rock) music. Very fun...

BTW, this was one of the better musical pieces for the laser show in our dorm room, and this thread reminded me of it so I had to post it. It's also the song that I get in my head when I'm pushing the cadence of my mountain bike (MTB) to keep a high pedal cadence. :smile:

Set your Lissajous laser deflection at 60Hz horizontal and turn up the vertical and the audio!


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