Mathematics of Classical and Quantum Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a suitable reference book on the mathematics of physics, particularly for undergraduate and graduate courses. Participants share their experiences with various texts and express preferences for different types of mathematical resources relevant to classical and quantum physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a comprehensive book that covers the necessary mathematics for physics, specifically mentioning "Mathematics of Classical and Quantum Physics" by Byron and Fuller as a potential reference.
  • Another participant suggests reviewing other books before considering Byron and Fuller, providing links to alternative texts.
  • A different participant expresses interest in more advanced materials than those initially suggested.
  • Some participants argue that general "mathematics for physicists" texts may lack depth, advocating for more specialized texts that focus on individual topics.
  • One participant shares a positive experience with Byron and Fuller, noting its physical intuition but expressing uncertainty about its effectiveness as a reference.
  • Another participant defends the usefulness of Boas' text for quick reviews, especially when time is limited.
  • A later reply reinforces the suitability of Byron and Fuller for the original poster's needs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of general mathematical texts versus specialized ones. While some advocate for comprehensive resources, others prefer focused texts on individual topics. There is no consensus on the best approach or the most suitable book.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying levels of prior knowledge and specific needs, which may influence their recommendations. Some express concerns about the depth and breadth of material covered in suggested texts.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the intersection of mathematics and physics, particularly those seeking reference materials for undergraduate and graduate studies in classical and quantum physics.

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So I'm looking for a decent book which I can use as a reference for now (and hopefully at some point read all the way through) on the mathematics of physics. And by "mathematics of physics" I mean a single book which covers the bases of most math needed for any undergraduate and maybe even the odd graduate course in physics.

One use for it would be say, I'm taking a more advanced course on quantum mechanics and I'm a bit rusty on my linear algebra. It would be nice to have a book I could quickly reference.

I found the book, "Mathematics of Classical and Quantum Physics" by Byron and Fuller online and by briefly surveying the table of contents, it seems to be just the thing I need. Does anyone have any experience with this book or recommend any books similar in nature to this one??

*EDIT: I should mention that I have a pretty decent knowledge of basic, multivariable, and vector calc, along with a decent textbook which covers this pretty well (Stewart's text on calculus), so the book I'm looking for should cover material above this level.
 
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I'm looking into something a bit more advanced than the first two books you listed. The third one looks decent though.
 
In my experience, the sort of books you are after "mathematics for physicists" etc. are usually a little soft. In my honest opinion your are better going for texts for each individual topic and looking for books with more emphasis on the mathematics.
 
Hootenanny said:
In my experience, the sort of books you are after "mathematics for physicists" etc. are usually a little soft. In my honest opinion your are better going for texts for each individual topic and looking for books with more emphasis on the mathematics.

I do agree with you on this. However, there are several reasons I would prefer a text on mathematical physics:

A) a lot of the material I have covered before (if even just briefly), and I just need a refresher on it

B) I don't have the money to purchase a textbook for each individual topic, nor the time/motivation to look through them all, making it an even bigger waste of money

C) as much as I'd love to understand everything math, I just don't have time, and I would rather focus on something which condenses the math into things that are very important for physics. I'm concerned that if I bought a full text in say group theory, that I may only really need a couple chapters, and the rest would again just be a waste of time/money to read

Of course, if I have trouble understanding something, or realize a much deeper understanding is required, I could always go purchase a particular mathematical topic and read that through. However, I would rather use that as a last resort.
 
I'm currently about halfway through the book by Byron and Fuller and it's one of the best books I've seen. He offers physical intuition and insights to otherwise very technical mathematics. There were some points I couldn't follow due to lack of experience, but if I spent enough time, I usually could see what was going on. (edit) I'm not sure how good it would be as a reference though...
 
Byron Fuller is ideal for the purpose you describe
 

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