Matrix Linear Systems Equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a matrix linear system, specifically focusing on the equation involving the matrix A and the identity matrix I. Participants are attempting to understand the implications of their calculations and the correct interpretation of the results.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are examining the equation Ax = x and discussing the correct formulation of A - I. There are attempts to clarify the distinction between subtracting 1 from each entry of A versus using the identity matrix. Questions arise about the implications of the row-reduced form of the matrix and the nature of the solutions.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations and interpretations of the matrix operations. Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the identity matrix and its role in the problem, while others are questioning the assumptions made in their calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the results.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is also a focus on ensuring the correct application of linear algebra concepts without providing direct solutions.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


I got a but can seem to get the answer for b which is $$\vec{x} = c\begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 0\end{pmatrix}$$

where for any scalar c

The Attempt at a Solution


I managed to get it to $$\vec{x}(A-1)=0$$

$$= \begin{pmatrix} 0 3 \\ -1 0\end{pmatrix}=\begin{pmatrix} 1 0 \\ 0 1\end{pmatrix}$$
Then I reduced the matrix to reduced row echolon form
but after that I seem not to get the answer.

Thank you
 

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zack7 said:

Homework Statement


Question in the image.


Homework Equations


I got a but can seem to get the answer for b which is $$\vec{x} = c\begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 0\end{pmatrix}$$

where for any scalar c

The Attempt at a Solution


I managed to get it to $$\vec{x}(A-1)=0
You made a mistake in how you calculated A - I. (It's not A - 1. IOW, you don't subtract 1 from each entry of A.)
zack7 said:
= \begin{pmatrix} 0 3 \\ -1 0\end{pmatrix}$$=\begin{pmatrix} 1 0 \\ 0 1\end{pmatrix}$$
Then I reduced the matrix to reduced row echolon form
but after that I seem not to get the answer.

Thank you
 
Mark44 said:
You made a mistake in how you calculated A - I. (It's not A - 1. IOW, you don't subtract 1 from each entry of A.)
I get (A-I),
which would then be
$$\begin{pmatrix} 0 3 \\ 0 0\end{pmatrix}$$
but this would mean x1 and x2 = 0
 
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zack7 said:
but if I factorize the x out I get (A-1), how would I simplfy that since it is not possible to subtract?

No, you don't get A - 1. Here's the way it goes:

Ax = x
=> Ax - x = 0
=> (A - I)x = 0

In the last equation, that is A - I, the 2 x 2 identity matrix, NOT the matrix whose entries are all 1's.

Calculate A - I, and row reduce it to find the solution set.
 
Mark44 said:
No, you don't get A - 1. Here's the way it goes:

Ax = x
=> Ax - x = 0
=> (A - I)x = 0

In the last equation, that is A - I, the 2 x 2 identity matrix, NOT the matrix whose entries are all 1's.

Calculate A - I, and row reduce it to find the solution set.

Thanks, I understand that part,careless mistake but when I reduce it I get
x1 and x2 = 0
 
zack7 said:
I get (A-I),
which would then be
\begin{pmatrix} 0 3 \\ 0 0\end{pmatrix}$$
but this would mean x1 and x2 = 0
No. The top row says 0x1 + 3x2 = 0, so x1 is arbitrary.
 
Mark44 said:
No. The top row says 0x1 + 3x2 = 0, so x1 is arbitrary.

then why is the answer $$\vec{x} = c\begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 0\end{pmatrix}$$
$$\vec {x} = x1\begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 0\end{pmatrix}$$
 
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Fixed your LaTeX. You need to put the [noparse]$$[/noparse] thing at the end of your expression, too.
zack7 said:
then why is the answer $$\vec{x} = c\begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 0\end{pmatrix}$$isn't it then $$\vec{x} = x1\begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 0\end{pmatrix}$$
Those are pretty much the same thing. In the first, c is an arbitrary number; in the second, x1 is an arbitrary number.
 

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