Matrix of angular momentum operator

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The discussion focuses on finding the matrix representation of the product of angular momentum operators for a two-particle system in quantum mechanics. The user is specifically trying to compute the matrix elements for the operator A = J1^+ J2^- under certain conditions, where J1^+ is the raising operator for the first particle and J2^- is the lowering operator for the second. They provide specific basis states and calculations, ultimately determining that the matrix element A_{1,2} equals 2√2 h-bar^2. The conversation concludes with the user expressing gratitude for the clarification received regarding the nature of the resulting matrix.
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as known to all, we can find a matrix representation for every operator in quantum mechanics.

for example for total angular momentum of one particle j(square) the elements are j(j+1)(square)h(bar) δmm'

However I have stucked in two particle systems.

for example I could not find the matrix of j1+j2- (this is a product) here j1+ is the raising operator for first particle and j2- is the lowering operator for second one.
normally for one particle raising angular momentum operator gives the eigen value (squareroot)[j(j+1)-m(m+1)].
but in this case as far as i know, i have to find the matrix representration of product of this two operator. but for the below conditions I could not create a matrix.
lets say j1=2 j2=1 and the restriction is m= m1 +m2 = 2. that is m1 can take values 2,1 and coresponding m2 values are 0 and 1.
can you help me about this?
 
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You must first write down your basis states, e.g. you can take the product states

|1> = |j1=2, m1=2>|j2=1,m2=0>

|2> = |j1=2, m1=1>|j2=1,m2=1>

If we put A = J1^{+} J2^{-}, then the matrix elements are

A_{i,j} = <i|A|j>

e.g.

A_{1,2} =

<|j1=2, m1=2|<j2=1,m2=0|J1^{+} J2^{-}
|j1=2, m1=1>|j2=1,m2=1>

We have:

J1^{+} J2^{-}|j1=2, m1=1>|j2=1,m2=1> =

(J1^{+} |j1=2, m1=1>) (J2^{-}|j2=1,m2=1>) =

2sqrt(2)h-bar^2|j1=2, m1=2>|j2=1, m2=0>

And we see that A_{1,2} = 2sqrt(2)h-bar^2
 
is that a diagonal matrix or an off diagonal matrix.
you took the state 1 and state 2 to form the matrix of the operator A and after you applied the operators to the state of 2 you got the state of 1 then the kronecker delta gave you what? a diagonal matrix or what?

thanks by the way for your answer.
 
or could you just write the elemts of this 2x2 matrix.
thanks alot.
 
ah okey just understood
thnaks very much for your kindness.
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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