Max Mass for Equilibrium Problem Homework

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The problem involves a mass hanging from a string attached to a wall, with the goal of determining the maximum mass that can hang before the rod slips. The subject area is related to equilibrium, forces, and torques in physics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the system, including tension and friction. There is uncertainty about how to incorporate the angle of 50 degrees into the calculations. Questions arise regarding the role of torque and whether the length of the rod is necessary for analysis.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider torques and the implications of the angle, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

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There is a mention of needing to know the length of the rod to fully analyze the torque, which may be a constraint in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Basically, the string is attached a to a wall at the top right, with a mass m hanging on the other end. It asks to find the max mass m that can hang before bottom of the rod slips.

Homework Equations


Fnetx=0
Fnety=0

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that Ft=mg for the hanging mass m.
Then for the x forces on the rod: Ft=Ffs
so usFn=mg
But I don't know what to do with the angle 50 degrees. You have to include it somewhere right?
I was thinking us(50)(9.8)(sin50)=m(9.8) but I don't know if that's right.

Thanks
Adam
 

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Welcome to PF.

There are also torques to consider, which must sum to zero. (The angle will play a role here.)

Also, while the tension in the vertical section of string is mg, in the horizontal section it can be something different.
 
I was thinking about the torque, but don't you need to know the length of the rod to find them?
 
Let the rod length be L, and see how the torque equation works out.
 

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