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The discussion revolves around solving a quadratic equation, sketching its graph, and finding the equation of the tangent line at a specific point on the curve. It includes aspects of mathematical reasoning and technical explanation related to the properties of quadratic functions.

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  • Post 1 presents a solution to finding the roots of the equation $$x^{2}+5x-6$$ using the quadratic formula, yielding $$x=6$$ or $$-1$$.
  • Post 1 also discusses the vertex of the parabola, calculating the minimum point at $$x=-\frac{5}{2}$$ and $$y=-\frac{49}{4}$$.
  • Post 1 indicates uncertainty regarding how to find the equation of the tangent at $$x=2$$.
  • Post 2 corrects the phrasing of the original equation and suggests verifying the roots by substituting back into the original equation.
  • Post 2 agrees with the vertex calculation and provides additional context about the vertex formula and the nature of the extremum based on the sign of $$a$$.
  • Post 3 reiterates the formula for the tangent line and asks for clarification on the values needed for substitution.
  • Post 4 humorously confirms the formula and suggests that the necessary values for substitution were already mentioned in a previous post, inviting further questions for clarification.

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Participants generally agree on the calculations related to the roots and vertex of the quadratic function, but there is uncertainty regarding the tangent line equation, with some participants seeking clarification on its application.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific values needed to find the tangent line equation, as well as the clarity of the initial problem statement.

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Students or individuals seeking assistance with quadratic equations, graphing functions, and understanding tangent lines in calculus may find this discussion beneficial.

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a) Find the roots of the equation $$x^{2}+5x-6$$

b) Sketch the graph of the function $$x^{2}+5x-6$$ labeling the points at which the graph crosses the axes and the co-ordinates of the maximum and minimum of the curve

c) Find the equation of the tangent at the point where $$x=2$$ on the curve of $$y=x^{2}+5x-6$$

MY SOLUTION Right so far?

a) Using the quadratic formula, we get $$x=\frac{-5\pm\sqrt{49}}{2}$$

$$\therefore x=6$$ or $$-1$$

b)
$$y=x^{2}+5x-6$$

$$\d{y}{x}$$ = $$2x+5$$

$$x=-\frac{5}{2}$$ (-2.5)

Sub x into equation

$$y=(-\frac{5}{2})^{2}+5(-\frac{5}{2})-6$$

y=$$-\frac{49}{4}$$ (-12.25)

and $$\d{y^{2}}{^{2}x}$$ = 2 which is a minimum value

So with the graph, you would plot it with the parabola going with the x points -3 and 6 and the y points $$-\frac{49}{4}$$

c) No clue!
 
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mathsheadache said:
a) Find the roots of the equation $$x^{2}+5x-6$$
Note that this is not an equation because an equation must have the = sign. You could find the roots of the equation $$x^{2}+5x-6=0$$ or of polynomial $$x^{2}+5x-6$$.

mathsheadache said:
a) Using the quadratic formula, we get $$x=\frac{-5\pm\sqrt{49}}{2}$$

$$\therefore x=6$$ or $$-1$$
I recommend substituting these values back into the original equation and checking if they are indeed roots.

mathsheadache said:
b)
$$y=x^{2}+5x-6$$

$$\d{y}{x}$$ = $$2x+5$$

$$x=-\frac{5}{2}$$ (-2.5)

Sub x into equation

$$y=(-\frac{5}{2})^{2}+5(-\frac{5}{2})-6$$

y=$$-\frac{49}{4}$$ (-12.25)

and $$\d{y^{2}}{^{2}x}$$ = 2 which is a minimum value
I agree. It may make sense to remember that the $x$-coordinate of the vertex of the parabola $y=ax^2+bx+c$ is $-b/(2a)$ and that the type of extremum is determined by the sign of $a$: if $a>0$, then the function has a minimum and if $a<0$, then it has a maximum.

mathsheadache said:
So with the graph, you would plot it with the parabola going with the x points -3 and 6 and the y points $$-\frac{49}{4}$$
This is stated a little vague.

mathsheadache said:
c) Find the equation of the tangent at the point where $$x=2$$ on the curve of $$y=x^{2}+5x-6$$
The equation of the tangent to $y=f(x)$ at point $(x_0,f(x_0))$ is $y-y_0=f'(x_0)(x-x_0)$.
 
The equation of the tangent to $y=f(x)$ at point $(x_0,f(x_0))$ is $y-y_0=f'(x_0)(x-x_0)$.

Is this the formula? What values would you need to sub in?
 
mathsheadache said:
Is this the formula?
Well, it's not an apple! (Smile) You can see it in Wikipedia.

mathsheadache said:
What values would you need to sub in?
I think my post mentions everything that one needs to use this formula. I suggest you re-read it, and if you have further questions, feel free to describe what you don't understand.
 

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