Maximizing a Function Using Infinity Approach

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The discussion revolves around maximizing the function f(x, y) = 2xy + 2y − x² − 2y², with the goal of determining the values of x and y that yield a global maximum using an "infinity approach." The boundaries for x and y are set from negative infinity to positive infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of partial derivatives to find critical points and question the meaning of the "infinity approach." There is a suggestion to consider limits as x and y approach infinity along various paths, rather than evaluating the function directly at infinity. Some participants express confusion about the implications of these limits and the correct interpretation of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the "infinity approach." Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of limits and transformations of variables, but there is no consensus on how to proceed from the critical points identified.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need for clarity regarding the limits of the function as x and y approach infinity, and there is confusion about the application of certain transformations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to confirm that the identified critical point yields a global maximum.

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Homework Statement


max f(x, y) = 2xy + 2y − x^2 − 2y^2
I need to get the value of x and y and determine if it gives the global maximum by using the infinity approach only.
Boundary is Negative infinity and Positive infinity


Homework Equations


max f(x, y) = 2xy + 2y − x^2 − 2y^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I am aware of the first step:
Partial differentiate with respect to x ++++++ 2y − 2x = 0
Partial differentiate with respect to y ++++++ 2x+ 2− 4y = 0
Solving both the equations will give x = y = 1

From here, I do not know how to use f(±INFINITY,±INFINITY) to determine if x = y = 1 yields the global maximum.


Your help is greatly appreciated. I have an exam next week on this.

Thanks Rye.
 
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If you are using partial derivatives, this is hardly "pre-calculus"! I am going to move to this to calculus and beyond.

I don't know what your teacher means by "the infinity approach" but you DON'T "use f(±INFINITY,±INFINITY)" such a thing does not exist. You can, however, look at LIMITS as x and y go to infinity. In particular, along the line y= x, the function becomes f(x, x) = 2x2 + 2x − x2 − 2x2= 2x- 2x2. What happens to that as x goes to infinity? I particularly suggested y= x because f(x,y) = 2y- (x-y)2.

Again, this may not be the "infinity approach" but letting u= x-y, v= x+ y and writing f as a function f u and v might be enlightening.
 
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply. What I meant was the functions end points are positive and negative infinity. In order to test if f(1,1) qualifies to be the max value, I have to test out f(+∞,+∞) and f(-∞,-∞).

I guess what your mean by as x and y approaches infinity makes sense with f(+∞,+∞) and f(-∞,-∞).

However, I do not know what is the step from here. Pls enlighten. Thanks!
 
NO, what I meant was that f(+[itex]\infty[/itex], +[itex]\infty[/itex]) have no meaning. You may be using them as shorthand for limits but you should be clear about that. Actually, since this is a function of two variables, you need more than just the limits as x and y individually go to infinity. You need to consider the possibility of (x,y) going infinitely far from (0,0) along any path. Have you looked at my last suggestion? If you take u= x-y and v= x+ y, then 2y= v- u, 2x= u+v and 2xy= (v^2- 8y^2)/2 so f(x,y)= 2xy- (x-y)^2= v^2/2- u^2/2- u^2= v^2/2- 3u^2/2. What kind of figure is that?
 
Hi HallsofIvy,

I am totally confused. I do not know where did u= x-y and v= x+ y come from ?

I am stuck at the step where I have got x = y = 1. From here how can I determine that indeed f(1,1) gives the global maximum? I would be grateful if you could tell me step by step.. Plsss

Tks.

Rye
 
anyone can help pls??
 

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