Maximizing (ab+bc+ca) with a+2b+c=4

In summary, you are trying to solve for b in a homework equation, but you can't seem to get the answer. You substitute b into the equation and get a quadratic equation which you can differentiate to find a maximum value for X at a particular b.
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Homework Statement


Let a,b,c be real numbers such that a+2b+c=4. Then the max value of (ab+bc+ca) is

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The Attempt at a Solution


I am trying to substitute for b into the second expression but that won't give me the answer. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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I am trying to substitute for b into the second expression but that won't give me the answer.
Why?
The approach is fine, what do you get as result?
 
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Note that a + c = 4-2b
and ab + bc + ac is the same as b(a + c) + ac

So you can write X = b(4-2b) + ac.
That's a quadratic that you can differentiate wrt b to find a maximum for X at a particular b. You can also find what ac must be from the same result.

After that, a few substitutions gives you the answer.
 
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mfb said:
Why?
The approach is fine, what do you get as result?

[itex]b=\dfrac{4-a-c}{2}[/itex]
Now substituting this into the second expression and simplifying I get
[itex]\dfrac{4(a+c)-(a^2+c^2)}{2}[/itex]

Whats next?
 
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AJ Bentley said:
Note that a + c = 4-2b
and ab + bc + ac is the same as b(a + c) + ac

So you can write X = b(4-2b) + ac.
That's a quadratic that you can differentiate wrt b to find a maximum for X at a particular b. You can also find what ac must be from the same result.

After that, a few substitutions gives you the answer.

Here's what I did

[itex]-2b^2+4b+ac[/itex]
Differentiating wrt b and setting it to 0
-4b+4=0
b=1
a+c=2
Now , ac=c(2-c)
Diff again wrt c and setting it to 0
c=1
a=1
Substituting a,b and c I get maximum value = 3

But the answer is 4. I can't find out my mistake. Maybe there is something wrong with differentiation.
 
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utkarshakash said:
[itex]b=\dfrac{4-a-c}{2}[/itex]
Now substituting this into the second expression and simplifying I get
[itex]\dfrac{4(a+c)-(a^2+c^2)}{2}[/itex]

Whats next?
The derivative with respect to a is 2- a and the derivative wth respect to c is 2- c. Set those equal to 0 and you get a= c= 2 which then gives b= 0.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
The derivative with respect to a is 2- a and the derivative wth respect to c is 2- c. Set those equal to 0 and you get a= c= 2 which then gives b= 0.

Thanks
 

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