Maximizing PV Panel Output with MPPT and Microinverters

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The discussion revolves around optimizing the output of photovoltaic (PV) solar panels for quicker battery charging. Participants explore the potential of modified DC-DC converters and the role of Maximum Power Point Tracking (MPPT) and microinverters in enhancing energy extraction from solar panels.

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  • One participant questions whether it is possible to increase the power output from PV panels by finding an optimum load draw and using a modified DC-DC converter to control voltage input drops.
  • Another participant asserts that the power output is limited by incoming solar energy and panel efficiency, suggesting that increasing the array size or concentrating light is necessary for more power.
  • A different participant mentions that tuning a DC-DC converter to operate at the Maximum Power Point is a viable method to maximize output, referencing additional information on solar cell efficiency.
  • One participant indicates that MPPT technology has been developed to extract up to 30% more power from solar panels, although it is noted that these systems can be expensive.
  • Another participant proposes that using microinverters, which convert the output to AC, may be a more efficient method for handling the varying performance of individual panels.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of increasing power output through various methods. While some acknowledge existing technologies like MPPT and microinverters, others emphasize the limitations imposed by solar energy availability and panel efficiency. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to optimize PV panel output.

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Participants reference various technologies and concepts, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the efficiency and cost-effectiveness of these solutions. The discussion does not clarify the specific conditions under which these technologies operate optimally.

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Im wondering if its possible to 'pull' more watts out of PV solar panels as to charge batteries quicker.

The maximum watts from the panels must depend on the load its given. So what if we find the optimum load draw, and create some kind of modified DC-DC converter which cleverly controls the voltages input drop (eg. 8v) as to draw the maximum watts - as well as holding a steady output voltage. (eg.14.5v)

Would this work? or, has this been done already?
 
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seb7 said:
Im wondering if its possible to 'pull' more watts out of PV solar panels as to charge batteries quicker.

The maximum watts from the panels must depend on the load its given. So what if we find the optimum load draw, and create some kind of modified DC-DC converter which cleverly controls the voltages input drop (eg. 8v) as to draw the maximum watts - as well as holding a steady output voltage. (eg.14.5v)

Would this work? or, has this been done already?

The power output from the solar panels is dictated by the amount of incoming solar energy and the panel efficiency. If you want more power available you need to increase the size of the array or concentrate more light on the panels, but you can't magically increase the efficiency of the array.
 
seb7 said:
Im wondering if its possible to 'pull' more watts out of PV solar panels as to charge batteries quicker.

The maximum watts from the panels must depend on the load its given. So what if we find the optimum load draw, and create some kind of modified DC-DC converter which cleverly controls the voltages input drop (eg. 8v) as to draw the maximum watts - as well as holding a steady output voltage. (eg.14.5v)

Would this work? or, has this been done already?

You can tune your DC-DC converter to have the solar cell operate at it's Maximum-Power Point, but that's about all that you can do beyond what ME is saying. See the Maximum-Power Point info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cell#Energy_conversion_efficiency

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Been researching all evening. It seems it has already been done.

These are called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mppt" which apparently can get up to 30% more power out of your panels. These modules are usually combined with a well controlled 4 stage charger. Though these are much better than a normal controllers, they are expensive.

I moved on to a better idea, as each panel is performing slightly differently, it would be better to have one for each panel and output at a much higher voltage as to reduce the power loss in the cables. Then I found that a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microinverter" already does such a job! converting directly to AC domestic voltage. I would never have guessed that converting to AC is actually the most efficient method of getting power from PV panels!
 
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