Maximum angle which a field line starting from Q will end at infinity

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The discussion revolves around understanding the behavior of electric field lines in a system involving point charges, specifically focusing on the maximum angle at which a field line originating from a positive charge will end at infinity. The problem is situated within the context of electrostatics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between field lines and charge distribution, questioning the assumptions about where field lines originate and terminate. There is an attempt to visualize the distribution of field lines around a point charge and how they relate to the angles involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and guidance on visualizing electric field lines. Some participants express uncertainty about their assumptions and calculations, while others suggest methods to conceptualize the problem further.

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There is mention of a specific image related to the problem, which may contain crucial information for understanding the charge configuration and field line behavior. Participants also reflect on the implications of charge magnitude and distance on electric field strength.

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I guess a) is 1/3 (probably wrong, because I assumed all the field lines that end at -q originates at +3q which is not necessarily true) but I can't figure out b)
 
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Hello, Wxfsa. Welcome to PF!

Wxfsa said:
I guess a) is 1/3 (probably wrong, because I assumed all the field lines that end at -q originates at +3q which is not necessarily true)

That sounds pretty good to me. Recall that for an electric dipole (where the positive and negative charges have equal magnitude), then every field line that ends on the negative charge starts on the positive charge. (You can forget about the one pesky line that comes into the negative charge from infinity.) In your case, the positive charge has "extra" charge and the field lines that go to infinity must originate on the positive charge.

but I can't figure out b)

Consider a very tiny sphere centered on the positive charge. Can you visualize the electric field lines piercing through the surface of that sphere? How are the lines distributed over the surface?
 
TSny said:
Can you visualize the electric field lines piercing through the surface of that sphere?

I can't, unfortunately.
 
You know that the electric field of a point charges varies with distance as 1/r2. So, when you get very close to a point charge, the field of the point charge becomes very large.

If you have a system of point charges and you get very close to one of the charges, then the field of that point charge will be much larger than the field of any other point charge in the system. So, to a very good approximation, the field very near the point charge will be the same as that of the point charge alone.
 

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Wxfsa said:
I can't, unfortunately.

If the sphere is VERY tiny like TSny said, they pretty much all go straight out. What fraction of them terminate on the negative charge? Look at the picture in problem hint again.
 
As far as my visualization abilities go, I would say theta is somewhere around 110-120 but I have no idea how I can actually calculate it.

EDIT: I think I got it arccos(-1/3)=109.5 Thank you for your help.
 
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