Maximum delta-v of a rocket engine

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The discussion revolves around the concept of maximum delta-v of a rocket engine, exploring how to calculate it and the implications of various propulsion methods. Participants touch on theoretical aspects, practical estimations, and specific propulsion technologies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the meaning and calculation of maximum delta-v, referencing a Wikipedia table on spacecraft propulsion.
  • Another participant suggests finding the exhaust velocity and making assumptions about the dry mass fraction to use the rocket equation.
  • A subsequent post questions whether this approach leads to more of an estimate rather than a precise calculation.
  • Another participant agrees that the calculations are indeed estimates, noting that many engineering measurements are approximations.
  • Discussion includes a point about tether propulsion not conforming to the rocket equation, highlighting differences in propulsion methods.
  • A participant mentions that for hybrid rockets, the mass fraction is critical, as the integrity of the fuel diminishes significantly after a certain percentage has burned.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the nature of the calculations, with some agreeing that they are estimates while others introduce different propulsion methods that complicate the application of the rocket equation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these different methods on delta-v calculations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on assumptions about mass fractions and the specific characteristics of different propulsion methods, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

yrjosmiel
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So I was browsing wikipedia when I encountered:
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What does this exactly mean? How does one calculate for this?

<< Adding link to the table >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacecraft_propulsion#Table_of_methods
 
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Find the exhaust velocity, then make reasonable assumptions about the dry mass fraction and use the rocket equation.
 
mfb said:
Find the exhaust velocity, then make reasonable assumptions about the dry mass fraction and use the rocket equation.
So it's more or less an estimate?
 
yrjosmiel said:
So it's more or less an estimate?
Something cool about engineer. A lot of "measurements" are really just estimates.

Look at gps guidance in your car.
 
Note that tether propulsion does not conform to the rocket equation at all.
For hybrid rockets, the mass fraction is critical, as in most cases a solid fuel is burned using an injected oxidizer.
The fuel loses integrity once 80 or so percent have burnt, which kills the mass fraction.
 
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