Maximum of dependent exponential random variables

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The discussion centers on the probability density function (pdf) or moment generating function (mgf) of the maximum of dependent exponential random variables defined as Z1, Z2, Z3, and Z4, which are derived from sums of independent normal random variables. The focus is on theoretical exploration and mathematical reasoning related to the properties of these random variables.

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  • One participant inquires about the pdf or mgf of the maximum of dependent exponential random variables defined as Z1, Z2, Z3, and Z4, which are correlated.
  • Another participant questions the independence of the random variables Xis and Yis, suggesting that if they are all independent, the sums would lead to a Chi-square distribution.
  • The original poster confirms that the Xis and Yis are independent of each other and acknowledges having four dependent Chi-square random variables, asking if the pdf of their maximum can be found.
  • A later reply provides a symbolic description of the solution, outlining how to express the pdf of the maximum variable Z_max in terms of integrals involving Dirac's delta function and the joint pdf of the random variables.
  • The reply also suggests that calculating the integral for Z_max may result in a complex expression and recommends using an analytic math program for computation.

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Participants generally agree on the independence of the Xis and Yis but express uncertainty regarding the calculation of the pdf of the maximum of the dependent random variables. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact form of the pdf.

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The discussion involves complex mathematical expressions and assumptions about the distributions of the random variables, which may not be fully resolved within the thread.

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Pdf (or mgf) of maximum of dependent exponential random variables ?

max of Z1, Z2, Z3, Z4

where

Z1 = |X1+X2+X3|^2 + |Y1+Y2+Y3|^2
Z2 = |X1-X2+X3|^2 + |Y1-Y2+Y3|^2
Z3 = |X1+X2-X3|^2 + |Y1+Y2-Y3|^2
Z4 = |X1-X2-X3|^2 + |Y1-Y2-Y3|^2

Xi, Yi are independent zero mean normal with variance 1/2.

So, Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4 are indentically distributed exponential random variables,
But they are correlated.

Can anybody help me?
 
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Sorry are the Xis and Yis independent of each other or are they all independent of everything else?

If they are all independent of each other then you have a Chi square as the sums of normals are a normal, and square of a normal is chi-squared and sums of chi-squares are chi-squared.

Hope that's helpful
 
Thank you. Xis and Yis are all independent of each other.
Yes. I have 4 Chi-square RVs. They are dependent.
Can I find the pdf of the maximum of those?
 
Here is a symbolic description of the solution to the problem, hope it makes
any sense:You want to calculate the PDF of a variable Z_{\max } = \max \left( {Z_1<br /> ,Z_2 ,Z_3 ,Z_4 } \right) where
<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> Z_1 = f_1 ({\rm {\bf X,Y}}) = \left| {X_1 + X_2 + X_3 } \right|^2 + \left|<br /> {Y_1 + Y_2 + Y_3 } \right|^2 \\<br /> Z_2 = f_2 ({\rm {\bf X,Y}}) = \left| {X_1 - X_2 + X_3 } \right|^2 + \left|<br /> {Y_1 - Y_2 + Y_3 } \right|^2 \\<br /> Z_3 = f_3 ({\rm {\bf X,Y}}) = \left| {X_1 + X_2 - X_3 } \right|^2 + \left|<br /> {Y_1 + Y_2 - Y_3 } \right|^2 \\<br /> Z_4 = f_4 ({\rm {\bf X,Y}}) = \left| {X_1 - X_2 - X_3 } \right|^2 + \left|<br /> {Y_1 - Y_2 - Y_3 } \right|^2 \\<br /> \end{array}<br />You can write a symbolic solution to the PDF of any function Z=f(X) of a stochastic variable X as
<br /> p(z) = \int {p({ {x}})\delta \left( {z - f \left(<br /> {x} \right)} \right)d{ {x}}} <br />
where \delta(z) is Dirac's delta function.

Thus, the PDF of Z_{\max } = \max \left(<br /> {Z_1 ,Z_2 ,Z_3 ,Z_4 } \right) can be written as


<br /> p(z_{\max } ) = \int {p({\rm {\bf z}})\delta \left( {z_{\max } - \max \left(<br /> {z_1 ,z_2 ,z_3 ,z_4 } \right)} \right)d{\rm {\bf z}}} \qquad , \qquad (1)<br />
where
<br /> p({\rm {\bf z}}) = \int {\int {p({\rm {\bf x}},{\rm {\bf y}})\prod\limits_{k<br /> = 1}^4 {\delta \left( {z_k - f_k ({\rm {\bf x}},{\rm {\bf y}})} \right)}<br /> d{\rm {\bf x}}} d{\rm {\bf y}}} <br />

<br /> p({\rm {\bf x}},{\rm {\bf y}}) = p(x_1 )p(x_2 )p(x_3 )p(y_1 )p(y_2 )p(y_3 )<br />

and integration with respect to a vector
\int { \cdot d{\rm {\bf x}}}
stands for integration over all components:
\int\limits_{ - \infty }^\infty<br /> {\int\limits_{ - \infty }^\infty {\int\limits_{ - \infty }^\infty { \cdot<br /> dx_1 dx_2 dx_3 } } }

If you had already calculated p({\rm {\bf z}}), the integral in (1) can be
calculated by dividing the four-dimensional space of {\rm {\bf z}} into
four parts, over each of which \max \left( {z_1 ,z_2 ,z_3 ,z_4 } \right)
is linear. The integral them becomes a sum of four parts, albeit with
slightly complicated bounds.

The resulting expression is likely to be quite messy, I'd recommend using an
analytic math program (e.g. Matematica or Maple) to compute it.
 

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