Maximum Power dissipated at load resistor

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The discussion revolves around determining the maximum power dissipated at a load resistor in a circuit involving Thevenin's theorem and resistor transformations. The original poster explores the relationship between load resistance and Thevenin resistance, as well as the application of a star-delta transformation.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate Thevenin voltage and resistance but expresses confusion regarding the values obtained. Some participants question the identification of components in the circuit, particularly whether a certain symbol represents a resistor or a battery. Others clarify the method for finding Thevenin resistance, emphasizing the importance of short-circuiting the voltage source rather than removing it.

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The discussion has progressed with participants providing clarifications on the correct approach to finding Thevenin resistance. The original poster acknowledges a mistake in their method and indicates they have arrived at the correct answer after receiving feedback.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding circuit components and the method of handling the voltage source, which may indicate a lack of clarity in the problem setup. The original poster's initial misunderstanding of the circuit configuration contributed to their difficulties in solving the problem.

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So , max power is dissipated when the load resistance and thevenin resistance becomes equal such that $$P\leq \frac{V_{\text{th}}^2}{4R_{\text{th}}}$$
Then i applied the 'star delta' transformation by converting the 'delta' ABC to 'star' ABC .
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From there , by loop current method , i got $$i=\frac{\epsilon}{\frac{5R}{3}+r}$$ (assuming the other ##\frac{R}{3}## is redundant)
Hence, $$V_{\text{th}}=i\cdot \frac{R}{3}=\frac{\epsilon R}{5R+3r}$$
Now , by removing the battery ##\epsilon## , i got ##R_{\text{th}}=\frac{5R}{3}+r##

Computing , ##P_{\max}## using these values gives the wrong answer . Not sure where i went wrong . I have confusions regarding the value of ##V_{\text{th}}## though
 
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Is ##r## a resistor??? IDK, it's strange to see two batteries in series if they aren't modeling something about two different batteries. It's even stranger to use that schematic symbol for a resistor. I'd guess it's a battery (ideal voltage source, really).
 
Bling Fizikst said:
Now , by removing the battery ##\epsilon## , i got ##R_{\text{th}}=\frac{5R}{3}+r##
You don't remove the battery, you short-circuit it, i.e. replace it with a wire. Then you find the resistance between the load terminals. Check you have done this correctly.

Edit. To be more precise, I should have said short-circuit the emf: the battery's internal resisstance should still be part of the circuit - it doesn't get shorted-out.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
You don't remove the battery, you short-circuit it, i.e. replace it with a wire. Then you find the resistance between the load terminals. Check you have done this correctly.
Yeah!!! i made that silly error of replacing the battery with open circuit . I have arrived at the correct answer now . Thanks!
 
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