Maxwell Distrib: Determine Vrms & Temp

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The discussion revolves around determining the root mean square speed (Vrms) and the effective temperature of a gas based on a given distribution of molecular speeds, which is related to the Maxwell distribution. The problem involves calculations with molecular mass and speed data.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of calculating the average of the squares of the speeds and the concept of weighted averages. There are questions about the correct approach to squaring the speeds and whether to weight them according to their occurrences.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the method for calculating the weighted average of the squares of the speeds. Some have provided links to resources on weighted means, indicating a search for deeper understanding.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the statistical methods required for the calculations, and participants are questioning each other's understanding of the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


A gas consisting of 15,200 molecules, each of mass 2.00×10^−26 kg , has the following distribution of speeds, which crudely mimics the Maxwell distribution:
Number of Molecules
1600
4100
4700
3100
1300
400
Speed
210
420
630
840
1050
1260

Determine Vrms for this distribution of speeds.
Given your value for Vrms , what (effective) temperature would you assign to this gas?

Homework Equations



Vrms = square root {Average V^2} or square root {3kT/m}

The Attempt at a Solution



So I squared all the values and then divided by the total number to obrain (Average velocity^2) and then took the square root ...the attempt failed..many thanks to anyone who helps!
 
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itryphysics said:
So I squared all the values and then divided by the total number to obrain (Average velocity^2) and then took the square root ...the attempt failed..
You need to first find the weighted average of the squares of the speeds.
 
what do you mean by "squaring all values"?

Do you weight all speed^2 with their occurrence?
 
so the average of the squares of the speeds was 6.6885*10^5
 
malawi_glenn said:
what do you mean by "squaring all values"?

Do you weight all speed^2 with their occurrence?


sorry for the confusion...i meant squaring all speeds..

and I don't know wht you mean by your second question :S
 
itryphysics said:
sorry for the confusion...i meant squaring all speeds..

and I don't know wht you mean by your second question :S

then you did not do the weigted average.. look it up
 
square root { (3kT) /m}

is that the weighted average?
 

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