Maxwell's equations for TEM mode

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The discussion centers on the mathematical proof of orthogonality between electric and magnetic fields in Transverse Electromagnetic (TEM) mode using Maxwell's equations. The participant, E, attempts to derive the relationship using the equation $$\nabla \times \overrightarrow{E} + \frac{\partial \overrightarrow{B}}{\partial t} = 0$$ but encounters discrepancies with a reference book's equations. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the specific geometry of waveguides, particularly rectangular waveguides, and the polarization of waves in deriving these equations accurately.

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Dear All,

I'm confused after reading of some chapter in a book, in which equations related to TEM mode have been derived. I want to prove mathematically, that Electric and Magnetic fields are ortogonal to each other. Thus, I use well known Maxwell equation:

$$\nabla \times \overrightarrow{E} + \frac{\partial \overrightarrow{B} }{\partial t} = 0$$

Due to fact, that the TEM mode is considered i.e. ##\overrightarrow{E}## varies only with ##z## plane ( ## \frac{\partial \overrightarrow{E} }{\partial x} = \frac{\partial \overrightarrow{E} }{\partial y} = 0##)

I calculate the following relation for TEM:

$$\overrightarrow{i}(-\frac{\partial E_y}{\partial z}) + \overrightarrow{j}(\frac{\partial E_x}{\partial z}) + \overrightarrow{i}(\frac{\mu \partial H_x}{\partial t}) + \overrightarrow{j}(\frac{\mu \partial H_y}{\partial t}) = 0$$

whereas in mentioned book is:

$$\overrightarrow{j}(\frac{\partial E_x}{\partial z}) + \overrightarrow{i}(\frac{\mu \partial H_x}{\partial t}) + \overrightarrow{j}(\frac{\mu \partial H_y}{\partial t}) = 0$$

I'm wondering what happens with ##\overrightarrow{i}(-\frac{\partial E_y}{\partial z}) ##. I've made something wrong or there is some issue in the book ?

Regards,
E.
 
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Well, the book you're looking at or at least a description of the geometry might help.

One suggestion, ##\text{TEM}_{10}## modes in a rectangular guide may be written or viewed as the sum of two plane waves. Each is the reflection of the other at the guide angle.
 
1. What book?
2. What kind of wave guide?
3. Your equations look like they are for a rectangular wave guide, but a TEM wave needs two separate surfaces.
4. The book could just be considering a wave polarized in the x direction.
 
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