MCNP6.2: F6:N and F6:P tallies vs +F6 tallies?

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of different tallies in MCNP6.2, specifically the relationship between +F6, F6:N, and F6:P tallies. Participants explore theoretical aspects and practical implications of using an SD card in the context of these tallies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether +F6 equals F6:N plus F6:P in theory, noting discrepancies in their results.
  • Another participant suggests that the effects of the SD card on +F6 should be consistent with its effects on F6:N and F6:P.
  • It is mentioned that the manual describes +F6 as "collision" and F6 as "track length," with an expectation that they will converge for large particle numbers.
  • A later reply indicates that using an SD value of 1 for F6:N, F6:P, and +F6 yields the expected result of +F6 equaling F6:N plus F6:P, attributing previous discrepancies to the role of the SD card.
  • Another participant notes that the normalization of F6 tallies is based on mass, volume, and density, which may clarify some of the issues discussed.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between the tallies and the influence of the SD card, with some reaching a resolution regarding their specific case while broader questions remain unresolved.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the SD card's effects and the normalization process, which may not be fully addressed in the discussion.

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In case of MODE:N P, is +F6=F6:N+F6:P
Hi,

I am checking whether, in case of a MODE:N P, tallies can be compared.
In theory, is +F6=F6:N+F6:P? If so, my numbers do not add up.

But maybe it's due to the role of SD card, so here there is an aside question: how does SD card affect the F6 tallies? Is it exactly like for F4 and F2? For instance, for F4, is the value of the tally without SD equal to the values of the tally with SD * (values of SD/volume)?

Thanks in advance
 
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Whatever the SD card does to +F6 should be the same for F6:N or F6:P.

The manual describes +F6 as "collision" and F6 as "track length." There is some description of these in the theory manual. Presumably they will converge for large numbers of particles. Do your numbers match within the statistical error estimate?
 
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Grelbr42 said:
Whatever the SD card does to +F6 should be the same for F6:N or F6:P.

The manual describes +F6 as "collision" and F6 as "track length." There is some description of these in the theory manual. Presumably they will converge for large numbers of particles. Do your numbers match within the statistical error estimate?
Hi! Thanks.

I have actually checked and using SD= 1 for F6:N, F6:P and +F6 gives exactly the result I was expecting, namely +F6=F6:N+F6:P.

So I guess that the discrepancy I had found when I had used SD for +F6 but not for F6:P and F6:N had to do with what SD actually does.
 
EDIT: solved

The normalization of F6 tallies is to the
mass=volume*rho
where rho is the density used in defining the cell.
 

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