Meaning of zero probability density

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the interpretation of zero probability density in quantum mechanics, particularly regarding particle behavior. Zero probability density indicates a zero chance of observing a particle at a specific position, but it does not imply that the particle cannot pass through that position. The conversation references concepts such as wave function interference, nodes in excited states, and the double slit experiment, illustrating that while observation is impossible at certain points, particles may still traverse those areas unobserved.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of quantum mechanics principles
  • Familiarity with wave functions and probability density
  • Knowledge of the double slit experiment
  • Concept of path integrals in quantum physics
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the implications of wave function interference in quantum mechanics
  • Explore the concept of path integrals in greater detail
  • Research the role of nodes in wave functions of quantum systems
  • Examine the philosophical implications of observation in quantum mechanics
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in physics, particularly those focused on quantum mechanics, as well as anyone interested in the foundational concepts of particle behavior and observation in quantum systems.

xfshi2000
Messages
30
Reaction score
0
Hi
I have a question about zero point of probability density of particle. In general we say if probability density is zero at a certain position, the particle never arrive there. But I also read some post in this forum. They said zero probability density means you have zero chance of seeing the particle. It doesn't mean the particle never arrive there. Only because of wave function interference, we have zero chance to see them. For example, oscillator excited state, there are several nodes in the wave function. In real world, it still pass through the zero probability density position. Where I use inaccurate word, there is no accurate position measurement. Another example is double slit experiment. We see alternate bright band and dark band in the screen. Dark band means that we cannot see the photon reach those places but photon really visit there. Because of interference of wave function, we have no chance to see them. Is my understanding right? if wrong, where does I make a mistake? thanks
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hi xfshi, in quantum mechanics it's a bit ill-posed to ask if a particle ever `arrives' somewhere. The meaningful thing to ask is whether or not you observe the particle. Zero probability density indeed means zero chance of observing the particle in that state (e.g. at that position).

It is less meaningful to ask whether the particle actually "does" pass through that point. The probability density doesn't say anything about how a particle got to the position you're observing; e.g. it doesn't tell you if a particle passes through a given point unobserved en route to being observed elsewhere.

This is one of the weird and cute features of quantum physics.
 
JosephButler said:
Hi xfshi, in quantum mechanics it's a bit ill-posed to ask if a particle ever `arrives' somewhere. The meaningful thing to ask is whether or not you observe the particle. Zero probability density indeed means zero chance of observing the particle in that state (e.g. at that position).

It is less meaningful to ask whether the particle actually "does" pass through that point. The probability density doesn't say anything about how a particle got to the position you're observing; e.g. it doesn't tell you if a particle passes through a given point unobserved en route to being observed elsewhere.

This is one of the weird and cute features of quantum physics.

Thank you for your reply. I agree with you. As I know there are infinite paths for particle from one position to another position(path integral). Classical path is the one with maximum probability. We indeed have no chance to observe it at zero probability density at a node point. But we don't know whether or not it pass through that specific point. thanks again.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
2K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
8K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
2K