Measurement of speed using redshift or blueshift

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The discussion focuses on the confusion surrounding the measurement of a star's velocity based on its light spectrum, specifically regarding blue-shift and red-shift. The calculated velocity of 13,000 m/s suggests the star is moving toward Earth, which corresponds to blue-shift, but there is a misunderstanding about the wavelength comparison with laboratory measurements. Participants clarify that a shorter wavelength indicates higher frequency and movement toward the observer, while longer wavelengths indicate movement away, or red-shift. The analogy of a train's sound is used to illustrate how frequency changes with motion, reinforcing the concept that blue-shift indicates approach and red-shift indicates recession. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that a blue-shift confirms the star is indeed moving toward Earth.
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Homework Statement
One wavelength in the hydrogen spectrum of light from Ursa Majoris is 486.112 nm. In the laboratory, this spectral line is found to have a wavelength of 486.133nm. Determine the velocity of Ursa Majoris relative to Earth. (speed of light = 3.0 x 10^8 m/s)
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The solution on my textbook is 13000m/s toward Earth as the light is blue-shifted

I'm able to calculate the magnitude of velocity (13000m/s), but i don't understand why thus is blue-shifted? Since in the lab, the light's wavelength observed is slightly higher than light from Ursa Majoris. So my thought is red-shift and move away from earth. Any any explanation?
 
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Your statement says that one of the star's H lines is at a shorter wavelength (ie: higher frequency) than the same line achieved in the lab (which we can take to be the reference result).

When you're standing next to the tracks and the train zooms by, does the wavelength of the sound of its horn from the cab decrease ? or increase.
 
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When the train coming towards me, the wavelength of sound is shorter (higher frequency) but when the train moves away from me it's wavelength is longer (low frequency)

The star's H lines is at a shorter wavelength than observed in the laboratory (low frequency is observed), that means the star must be moving away from the Earth and is red shifted

I double checked I didn't read the question wrong
 
mugen715 said:
When the train coming towards me, the wavelength of sound is shorter (higher frequency) but when the train moves away from me it's wavelength is longer (low frequency)

The star's H lines is at a shorter wavelength than observed in the laboratory (low frequency is observed), that means the star must be moving away from the Earth and is red shifted

I double checked I didn't read the question wrong
Red is longer wavelength than blue.
 
wavelength is the inverse of frequency.
 
mugen715 said:
When the train coming towards me, the wavelength of sound is shorter (higher frequency) but when the train moves away from me it's wavelength is longer (low frequency)

The star's H lines is at a shorter wavelength than observed in the laboratory (low frequency is observed), that means the star must be moving away from the Earth and is red shifted

I double checked I didn't read the question wrong
You are contradicting yourself. Yes, sound that you hear that is higher than normal = coming toward you. Light that is shorter wavelength (bluer) also means coming toward you.
 
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