Measuring Force on a Fishing Rod: Equation and Sample Problem

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The discussion revolves around measuring the force exerted on a fishing rod as it bends, particularly focusing on the use of strain gauges and dynamometers. The original poster seeks an equation and sample problem to calculate force, mentioning the Modulus of Elasticity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the use of strain gauges and dynamometers for measuring force and strain. Questions arise regarding the accuracy of these methods and the complexities of force distribution along the rod.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between strain and force, with some participants providing insights into the limitations of using a dynamometer alone. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the mechanics involved in measuring force on the rod.

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Participants note the challenges of accurately measuring force due to the distribution of forces along the fishing rod and the complexity of the stress field within the rod itself. There is also mention of historical mathematical approaches to similar problems.

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I am looking into building my own fishing rod and am really lost on how to measure force exerted strictly on a pole as it bends. I think I'll have to use a strain gauge but I can't even find an equation to measure the force.

Can anyone provide the equation, variables, and sample problem? I'd like to solve for force, ill have the Modulus of Elasticity ε.

Ideally solve from the output of the strain gauge.
 
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If you want to measure the force applied to the pole, put a dynamometer (force gauge) in the fishing line and pull.

Strain gauges measure strain, not force.
 
SteamKing said:
If you want to measure the force applied to the pole, put a dynamometer (force gauge) in the fishing line and pull.

Strain gauges measure strain, not force.

A dynamometer won't account for the force being distributed across the pole. All of the guides and the bend will make the force gauge reading on the line less than what it really is.

Understand strain gauges measure strain...but you can use strain to calculate force. Can someone smart reply.
 
stuhr727 said:
A dynamometer won't account for the force being distributed across the pole. All of the guides and the bend will make the force gauge reading on the line less than what it really is.

Understand strain gauges measure strain...but you can use strain to calculate force. Can someone smart reply.

Euler (who was fairly smart by most accounts :smile:) worked out the mathematics of bent rods about 250 years ago, if that's what you're looking for. It's quite involved - lots of nasty elliptical integrals :frown:

I think you might be confused about the forces involved here. SteamKing is correct - a force gauge in the fishing line will tell you exactly the force exerted on the rod by the line. Inside the rod, life is complicated because various bits of the rod exert different forces on various other bits of the rod. It's not like there's one force "all the way through the rod". Instead, there's a continuously varying stress field.
 

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