Measuring Height Yourself: 2 Ways to Calculate BMI

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The discussion revolves around various methods for measuring height, particularly in the context of calculating Body Mass Index (BMI). Participants explore both practical and theoretical approaches, highlighting creativity and ingenuity in self-measurement techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest unconventional methods, such as measuring height by placing copies of oneself end-to-end or timing entry into a pool to calculate height based on water displacement.
  • Others propose more practical approaches, like using a pencil and ruler against a door frame, or measuring fingertip to fingertip as a rough estimate of height.
  • A few participants emphasize the importance of accuracy and practicality, arguing that simpler methods are preferable.
  • Some participants challenge the accuracy of certain methods, such as using arm span as a height measurement, noting that individual proportions can vary significantly.
  • Creative suggestions include using shadows to estimate height or employing a square object like a book to mark height against a wall.

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There is no consensus on the best method for measuring height, with participants presenting multiple competing views and approaches. Some favor practical solutions, while others enjoy exploring more imaginative ideas.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of concern regarding the accuracy of different measurement methods, with some acknowledging that certain techniques may yield approximate rather than precise results.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals looking for creative or practical methods to measure height, as well as those curious about the relationship between height and BMI calculations.

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Today my sister asked me to measure her height so she can calculate her BMI. Being the lazy lout that I am I told her to measure herself. And then I started thinking of ways she could actually measure herself. I am embarassed to admit I could only think of two ways:

1) Let's round out her height to the nearest centimetre (oh yes, metric system! get with it). She should draw a line on the ground and mark of the metres. If she places copies of herself end-to-end -- by marking off her head and then placing her feet there and continuing, etc. -- eventually her head will coincide with an integer metre, allowing her to calculate her height.

2) Run into a pool and record the time her feet enter the water, and when her head passes the surface of the water. Then she measures the height of the ground from the height of the water. Of course she shouldn't jump into the pool, but simply run forward. A simple calculation will give her height.

Of course neither of these ideas is practiceable, but could work in theory. Nevertheless it's quite fun to think of ways she could measure her own height. Can you think of any other ways?
 
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qspeechc said:
Today my sister asked me to measure her height so she can calculate her BMI. Being the lazy lout that I am I told her to measure herself. And then I started thinking of ways she could actually measure herself. I am embarassed to admit I could only think of two ways:

1) Let's round out her height to the nearest centimetre (oh yes, metric system! get with it). She should draw a line on the ground and mark of the metres. If she places copies of herself end-to-end -- by marking off her head and then placing her feet there and continuing, etc. -- eventually her head will coincide with an integer metre, allowing her to calculate her height.

2) Run into a pool and record the time her feet enter the water, and when her head passes the surface of the water. Then she measures the height of the ground from the height of the water. Of course she shouldn't jump into the pool, but simply run forward. A simple calculation will give her height.

Of course neither of these ideas are practiceable, but could work in theory. Nevertheless it's quite fun to think of ways she could measure her own height. Can you think of any other ways?

There is an apparatus that is used to measure the vertical leap of an athlete at a sports combine. If she could construct something that would be similar, but taller than herself, she could measure how tall she was.

http://images.whereilive.com.au/images/uploads/2009/02/23/27de08fece1970ba9dca4a502ea5a433_resized.JPG

In the photo, the athlete hits as many horizontal "pegs" as he can in order to measure how far he's traveled off of the ground. If she could do the same, except walk through hers, she'd be able to measure from the ground up to the last vertical "peg" to get an approximate height.
 
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Well, yes, that would work, but my methods are certainly more fun! :biggrin:
 
1. Get a pencil and a ruler. Position yourself against the door frame. Use ruler and put it against the door frame and perpendicular against the head. Keep it there. Rotate, mark frame with pencil.

Take a measuring device and measure the height. Delete mark. Repeat 3 times and average.

Simple. Practical. Can be done by anyone. Does not involves NASA devices.

2. Stop being lazy and help her.
 
Measure the length from fingertip to fingertip (of the middle finger) when she spreads her arms. It's the same as her height.
 
DanP said:
1. Get a pencil and a ruler. Position yourself against the door frame. Use ruler and put it against the door frame and perpendicular against the head. Keep it there. Rotate, mark frame with pencil.

Take a measuring device and measure the height. Delete mark. Repeat 3 times and average.

Simple. Practical. Can be done by anyone. Does not involves NASA devices.

2. Stop being lazy and help her.

Thank God someone other than me thought of this.

Isn't the point of science to make things easier?
 
I don't remember qspeechc asking anyone to refrain from offering impractical solutions. Of course there are easier ways to do it, but what would science be without ingenuity, whether practical or not? Have some fun guys, sheesh. :wink:

MotoH:

I'd say that we find easier ways to do things by way of using science, but that is not its sole purpose. In science, we endeavor to understand the world around us, whether or not it leads to practical application.
 
Kronos5253 said:
Measure the length from fingertip to fingertip (of the middle finger) when she spreads her arms. It's the same as her height.

It is not. It is close, but different.
 
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sisters!

qspeechc said:
Today my sister asked me to measure her height so she can calculate her BMI. Being the lazy lout that I am I told her to measure herself.

Quite right! What has she ever done for you? :wink:

Go to the card shop and buy her a 2-metre-tall "I'm sorry i didn't help you to measure your height" card. :smile:
 
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Kronos5253 said:
Measure the length from fingertip to fingertip (of the middle finger) when she spreads her arms. It's the same as her height.
That's not accurate. People's arm length and height vary proportionally from person to person. There's a fighter in the UFC who has a measure of 84.5 inches fingertip to fingertip, yet he's only 6'4".
 
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Do what the physicists do, work in units where her height is 1.

-or-

Tell her to lie down on the floor with a book at her feet and a book at her head. Then get up and and measure the distance between the books.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
Do what the physicists do, work in units where her height is 1.
Best answer. :smile:


Jimmy Snyder said:
Tell her to lie down on the floor with a book at her feet and a book at her head. Then get up and and measure the distance between the books.

Inaccurate. She will be taller lying down than she is standing up.
 
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Have her bend over backwards and grab her ankles touching the soles of her feet to the top of her head, forming as circular a shape as possible. Then have her measure the distance from heel to small-of-back. Multiply by pi.
 
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Standing in sun and measuring shadow and then shadow of a known object..
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Inaccurate. She will be taller lying down than she is standing up.
Besides, this is only good for measuring your length, not your height.
 
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Because a ruler can teeter-totter on your head, it's better to just grab a square, like a book, and line the spine against the wall. Stand against the wall and line up the book, then mark in the corner by the spine on the wall and measure the distance up to that.

I also mark where my eyes are and other features, and at a distance I periodically examine the marks to develop a visual height gauge against my own.
 
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Newai said:
Because a ruler can teeter-totter on your head, it's better to just grab a square, like a book, and line the spine against the wall. Stand against the wall and line up the book, then mark in the corner by the spine on the wall and measure the distance up to that.
Just remember to use a paperback rather than a hard-cover! Unless you have a flat head. Or if you don't care about sixteenths of an inch.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Inaccurate. She will be taller lying down than she is standing up.
Not everyone is as fat as me.
 
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Who cares if her height is accurate if she's only using it to calculate BMI? BMI is only useful on a population basis anyway and would only give a very rough approximation on an individual basis that can generally be determined just by LOOKING at the person.

It's close enough to just stand against the wall, put the pencil on the top of your head and mark the wall to measure it. Sure, you'll be off by the radius of a pencil, less than a 1/4 of an inch, so no big deal.
 
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Moonbear said:
Who cares if her height is accurate if she's only using it to calculate BMI? BMI is only useful on a population basis anyway and would only give a very rough approximation on an individual basis that can generally be determined just by LOOKING at the person.

This is why I am advocating the mirror.

Mirror mirror on the wall who is fairest of them all ?
 
  • #22
DanP said:
This is why I am advocating the mirror.

Mirror mirror on the wall who is fairest of them all ?

Yep. If quspeechc was a good brother, he would just look up and say, "You're fat; there, now you don't need to measure yourself." At least that's what I would have told my sister if she ever asked me something like that (and she's always been skinny as a rail). If I was in a more charitable mood, I might have told her something more like, "You'll never have boobs if you stay so skinny. Go away!" :biggrin:
 
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Moonbear said:
Yep. If quspeechc was a good brother, he would just look up and say, "You're fat; there, now you don't need to measure yourself." At least that's what I would have told my sister if she ever asked me something like that (and she's always been skinny as a rail). If I was in a more charitable mood, I might have told her something more like, "You'll never have boobs if you stay so skinny. Go away!" :biggrin:

MOONIEEE

*swings off a ceiling fan*

hey hey :biggrin:
 
  • #24
Moonbear said:
If I was in a more charitable mood, I might have told her something more like, "You'll never have boobs if you stay so skinny. Go away!" :biggrin:

Never say never. Cosmetic surgery works wonders.:rolleyes:
 
  • #25
Have her go to a fair and stand next to one of the if your not this tall signs.
 
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Moonbear said:
Who cares if her height is accurate if she's only using it to calculate BMI? BMI is only useful on a population basis anyway and would only give a very rough approximation on an individual basis that can generally be determined just by LOOKING at the person.

It's close enough to just stand against the wall, put the pencil on the top of your head and mark the wall to measure it. Sure, you'll be off by the radius of a pencil, less than a 1/4 of an inch, so no big deal.

We were obliging the OP:
Nevertheless it's quite fun to think of ways she could measure her own height. Can you think of any other ways?
 
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Moonbear said:
Yep. If quspeechc was a good brother

good sister :confused:

However, only a male would exhibit the characteristics described in the OP
 
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Moonbear said:
Who cares if her height is accurate if she's only using it to calculate BMI? BMI is only useful on a population basis anyway and would only give a very rough approximation on an individual basis that can generally be determined just by LOOKING at the person.

It's close enough to just stand against the wall, put the pencil on the top of your head and mark the wall to measure it. Sure, you'll be off by the radius of a pencil, less than a 1/4 of an inch, so no big deal.

This only works for normal people. If you are not normal then there will be significant error. :biggrin:
 
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Kronos5253 said:
Measure the length from fingertip to fingertip (of the middle finger) when she spreads her arms. It's the same as her height.

Strangely, no. With just a very small sampling of people (4) I once discovered that none of their wingspans exactly matched their height. Two of the four, in fact, had a wingspan greater than their height! One by an inch and the other by three inches (a real monkey man)! All done in stocking feet.
 
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Gokul43201 said:
Besides, this is only good for measuring your length, not your height.

Okay. Funny! :smile:
 

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