Mechanical Energy Question Involving a Spring

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The discussion revolves around a mechanical energy problem involving a block sliding down a frictionless incline and compressing a spring. Participants are exploring the relationship between gravitational potential energy and spring potential energy in the context of the block's motion and energy transformations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation principles, specifically relating gravitational potential energy to spring potential energy. There is an attempt to derive a function for kinetic energy after the block contacts the spring, with questions about how to express this function in terms of descent distance.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on adapting equations to find kinetic energy and suggested differentiation to locate maximum kinetic energy. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the setup of the function for kinetic energy after spring contact, indicating ongoing exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a mention of initial misconceptions about the distance after spring contact, which is being actively reconsidered.

Dante Tufano
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1. In the figure below, a block of mass m = 3.20 kg slides from rest a distance d down a frictionless incline at angle θ = 30.0° where it runs into a spring of spring constant 445 N/m. When the block momentarily stops, it has compressed the spring by 21.0 cm.

Here is the image: http://www.webassign.net/hrw/hrw7_8-41.gif

(a) What is the distance d?

(b) What is the distance between the point of first contact and the point where the block's speed is greatest?

2. Okay, so using the variable s as the amount the spring is compressed, I determined that mg(d+s)sin(theta)= (1/2)ks^2


3. Okay, so using the above equation, I solved for d and got the answer to part A. It's part B that I'm lost on. Apparently, the distance is not zero like I initially thought, so I'm not quite sure what to do. It says to write K as a function of descent distance after the spring contact is made, but I have no idea what that function would be, nor how to set it up.
 
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Anybody? I can't move on with the homework until I figure this one out.
 
Hi Dante! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
Dante Tufano said:
mg(d+s)sin(theta)= (1/2)ks^2

Apparently, the distance is not zero like I initially thought, so I'm not quite sure what to do. It says to write K as a function of descent distance after the spring contact is made, but I have no idea what that function would be, nor how to set it up.

Your equation is fine. :smile:

Now adapt it to find the KE (is that your K?), then differentiate it to find where the KE is a maximum …

what do you get? :wink:
 
Oh wow, I plugged everything in and it worked out, I probably should have been able to see the answer. Thanks a lot!
 

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