Mechanical Engineering Placement Thermodynamics Problem

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The discussion focuses on a thermodynamics problem involving a pump compressing hydrogen from a low-pressure tank at 4 bar and 30°C to a high-pressure tank at 100 bar. Key concepts include the application of the first law of thermodynamics, which states Q - W = ΔE, and the use of ideal gas laws for hydrogen (H2) with a molecular weight of 2 and specific heat at constant volume (Cv) of 10 kJ/kgK. The user seeks to determine the outlet temperature of the compressor under adiabatic and polytropic conditions, emphasizing the need to calculate internal energy and enthalpy changes.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of the first law of thermodynamics
  • Knowledge of ideal gas laws and properties of hydrogen
  • Familiarity with adiabatic and polytropic processes
  • Ability to calculate internal energy and enthalpy changes
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the application of the first law of thermodynamics in closed systems
  • Learn about the ideal gas law and its implications for hydrogen compression
  • Research the characteristics and calculations involved in polytropic processes
  • Explore methods for calculating outlet temperatures in adiabatic processes
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Mechanical engineering students, thermodynamics practitioners, and anyone involved in the design and analysis of gas compression systems will benefit from this discussion.

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Hi all I am struggling with this classs example

A pump compressing hydrogen from a low pressure to a high pressure tank where the tanks pressure is constant and H2 is an ideal gas.
Hydrogen: (H2: MW = 2, Cv = 10 kJ/kgK)
Low pressure tank: (P = 4 bar, T = 30oC)
High pressure tank: (P = 100 bar).

1) Apply the first law of thermodynamics eliminating terms not needed
2) Find the compressor outlet temp when the compression goes along an adiabatic and polytrophic process
 
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Since you stated this is a homework problem, what formulas are you using and what have you attempted so far?
 
Hi,

For the first law I have used Q-W = difference in energy and attempted to find the temp via finding the internal energy and enthalpy using deltau = cv x delta T and delta h = cp x delta T where I got 8520 KJ and 12063 KJ but now I am not sure how if I should integrate and remove pressure from the first law and find the temp now.
 
The problem states that Hydrogen can be considered an ideal gas, so it seems to me that all you really need to do is apply the ideal gas law using pressure and temperature at the input, and pressure at the output. Adiabatic means there is no heat entering or leaving the system during the process, so the gas is not cooled or heated by any other process.

As for the polytropic process, that will take a bit of fitting work to figure out what the polytropic index and constant is. Are you familiar with a polytropic process's form?
 
firstly for the first law does one simply remove pressure from the closed loop first law of thermodynamics?
 
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