Mechanics Part II: P, Q, and F Forces

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The discussion revolves around a mechanics problem involving two forces, P and Q, acting on a particle. The forces have specified magnitudes and an angle between them, with the goal of finding the resultant force F and the angle between F and P.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the magnitude of the resultant force using components but encounters discrepancies with the mark scheme. They question the reasoning behind the expressions for the x and y components of the forces.

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Participants are engaging in clarifying the approach to resolving the problem, particularly regarding the components of the forces. Some guidance has been provided on how to correctly account for the components of force Q, and there is an exploration of the implications of choosing the x-axis direction.

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The original poster expresses confusion about the calculations and the reasoning behind the components, indicating a need for further clarification on the setup of the problem.

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Mechanics Part II :)

Hi.
Sorry, i got stuck again.. :smile:

well...

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Two Forces, P and Q, act on a particle. The force P has a magnitude 5N and the force Q has magnitude 3N. The angle between the directions of P and Q is 40 degrees. The RESULTANT of P and Q is F

(a) Find, the magnitude of F

(b) Find, in degrees to one decimal place the angle between the directions of F and P.

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Now, my stab at part (a) was in the form
F^2 = Fx^2 + Fy^2
- = (5cos 40)^2 + (3sin 40)^2
However, it gives me a different answer to the mark scheme...
who have... (5+ 3cos40)^2 + (3 in 40)^2 ...

Why the 5 +3 cos40 ... i don't really get it...

Any help would be greatly appreciated. :confused:

(b) similarly for this.. my version would be ; tan(theta)= Fy / Fx ..but then for Fx... there would be 5+3cos 40... which i don't really understand how you get...

THANKS :)
 
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Take the direction of P to be along the x-direction. Thus the x-component of F will be Px + Qx. But Px = 5 N and Qx = 3 cos(40) N, so Fx = 5 + 3 cos(40).
 
ah... so you have to take the x component for force Q as well... correct?

and there will be no y component for force P.. since well.. there isn't one...

Yeah?
 
turnstile said:
ah... so you have to take the x component for force Q as well... correct?
Of course.

and there will be no y component for force P.. since well.. there isn't one...
Right. Because we cleverly chose our x-axis to be parallel to P.
 
last question..

are you god? :D ...

Thank you so much.
 

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