Mechanics Problem: Sliding Ring and Hoops on a Rough Surface

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The problem involves a ring and two identical hoops on a rough surface, where the ring slides down from a point while the hoops move apart. The scenario includes forces acting on the ring and hoops, with specific parameters such as mass and angles provided.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the ring and hoops, with one attempting to balance forces but feeling uncertain. Questions about the setup and the need for a diagram are raised, indicating a struggle to visualize the problem. There is also a suggestion to draw free body diagrams to clarify the forces involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the problem setup and attempting to visualize the scenario. Some guidance has been offered regarding free body diagrams and the relationships between the accelerations of the ring and hoops, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the diagram and the physical setup, indicating that a visual representation may be necessary for better understanding. There is mention of the geometry affecting the relationship between accelerations, but details remain unclear.

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A ring of mass 100gm connecting freely two identical thin loops of mass 200gm each, starts sliding down from point A at t=0. The centres of loops are B and C.The loops move apart over a sufficciently rough horizontal surface.[Neglect the friction between the ring and the hoop]g=10 Find
i) The normal reaction acting on each loop given by the horizontal surface at t=0
ii)Acceleration of loop at t=0
Given angle ABC=ACB=45

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I had no idea of it...What to use?

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to balance the forces acting at point A. but get nothing ..Thanks for help.
 
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Is there a diagram for this problem? I am at loss trying to understand the setup.
 
See i had a diagram..but it is in GGB FILE..For at loss.. I am telling Draw two intersecting circles..Name the topmost point as A..The ring is at A and the centres of the circles are B and C.B and C are the loops. Did it help?? or what's your confusion??
 
Sorry, it is still unclear. Can't you take a screenshot and attach it here?
 
Sorry i don't have a mobile..But what's your problem..Tell .I shall try my best to clear it.
 
voko said:
Sorry, it is still unclear. Can't you take a screenshot and attach it here?
Seems they're rigid hoops, not loops, standing on a rough horizontal surface. The ring is arbitrarily small.
BBAI BBAI, Can you draw free body diagrams for the ring and for one hoop? What forces are there in each case? What equations can you write down (not forgetting everything is accelerating)?
Note that the geometry will give a relationship between the acceleration of the ring and the acceleration of the hoops.
 

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