[mechanics] radius of a sphere with critical mass

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The discussion revolves around calculating the radius of a sphere made of neptunium-237, given its critical mass of 60 kg and a density of 19.5 g/cm³. Participants are exploring the relationship between mass, density, and volume in the context of this problem.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of mass from kilograms to grams and the implications for volume calculations. There is uncertainty about the multiplication of mass and density and how it affects the resulting units. Questions arise regarding the manipulation of units and the algebraic relationships involved in deriving volume from density.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on unit manipulation and algebraic rearrangements, while others are still clarifying their understanding of the relationships between mass, density, and volume. Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being explored, indicating an active engagement with the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of expressing their final answer in centimeters with two significant figures, which adds to the complexity of their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Here is the question:

"In the fall of 2002, a group of scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory determined that the critical mass of neptunium-237 is about 60 kg. The critical mass of a fissionable material is the minimum amount that must be brought together to start a chain reaction. This element has a density of 19.5 g/cm3 .

What would be the radius of a sphere of this material that has a critical mass?

r = ______ cm ? "

So my answer should be in CM, and I should express my answer using 2 significant figures.

Homework Equations


Here, equations I used were

V = m * d

The Attempt at a Solution



What I've done so far:

Ok you have

Mass = 60 kg

D = 19.5g/cm3

I converted 60 kg to 60,000 g because D is in terms of g/cm3 and my final answer is suppose to be cm, so I think this helps simplify it.

anyways, I have the equation:

V = m * d

so

(4/3)pi*r3 = 60,000 g * 19.5g/cm3

Okay, I'm unsure what happens when I multiply 60,000 g by 19.5g/cm3

Does my result become 1170000 g2/cm3? or does it remain 1170000 g/cm3 ?

So from what I understand after this, I'm going to get

r3 = (3 (result of the above multiplication) ) / 4pi

and then take that result and 1/3 it to get my final answer.

I'm mostly stuck here on the multiplying 60,000 g by 19.5g/cm3 part.

I have the feeling that I understand how to do it but I actually can't do it :/!
 
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Rijad Hadzic said:

Homework Statement


Here is the question:

"In the fall of 2002, a group of scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory determined that the critical mass of neptunium-237 is about 60 kg. The critical mass of a fissionable material is the minimum amount that must be brought together to start a chain reaction. This element has a density of 19.5 g/cm3 .

What would be the radius of a sphere of this material that has a critical mass?

r = ______ cm ? "

So my answer should be in CM, and I should express my answer using 2 significant figures.

Homework Equations


Here, equations I used were

V = m * d

The Attempt at a Solution



What I've done so far:

Ok you have

Mass = 60 kg

D = 19.5g/cm3

I converted 60 kg to 60,000 g because D is in terms of g/cm3 and my final answer is suppose to be cm, so I think this helps simplify it.

anyways, I have the equation:

V = m * d

so

(4/3)pi*r3 = 60,000 g * 19.5g/cm3

Okay, I'm unsure what happens when I multiply 60,000 g by 19.5g/cm3[\QUOTE]

Does my result become 1170000 g2/cm3? or does it remain 1170000 g/cm3 ?

Really? It should be very clear that multiplying grams × grams / cm3 ≠ cm3

Figure out how to get only cm3 [Hint: multiplication isn't the only thing you can do here.]
 
SteamKing said:
Really? It should be very clear that multiplying grams × grams / cm3 ≠ cm3

Figure out how to get only cm3 [Hint: multiplication isn't the only thing you can do here.]
Sorry, what I meant was, when multiplying grams by grams/cm^3, is my answer going to be grams^2/cm^3 or is it going to stay grams/cm^3?

Also, do you mean dividing?

If so, I tried the following:

60,000 g x cm^3 / 19.5 g to cancel out the g's, resulting with 3076.923077 cm^3.

After that I got ( (3076.923077 cm^3.) x 3 ) / 4pi = 7249.829201 cm^3so now I take (7249.829201 cm^3)^1/3 = 19.35423112 .

see, now I'm not sure what happened to the cm^3. when I did ^1/3, did that get rid of the ^3 and only make it cm? Or does it stay cm^3?
 
Rijad Hadzic said:
Sorry, what I meant was, when multiplying grams by grams/cm^3, is my answer going to be grams^2/cm^3 or is it going to stay grams/cm^3?

Also, do you mean dividing?

If so, I tried the following:

60,000 g x cm^3 / 19.5 g to cancel out the g's, resulting with 3076.923077 cm^3.

After that I got ( (3076.923077 cm^3.) x 3 ) / 4pi = 7249.829201 cm^3so now I take (7249.829201 cm^3)^1/3 = 19.35423112 .

see, now I'm not sure what happened to the cm^3. when I did ^1/3, did that get rid of the ^3 and only make it cm? Or does it stay cm^3?

Remember your algebra!

Density is defined as ##ρ = \frac{M}{V}##. Obviously, if you are looking for V, then you must manipulate this equation algebraically to obtain ##V = \frac{M}{ρ}##.
The units are manipulated in a similar fashion: ##\frac{g}{cm^3}=g\div cm^3##, so doing a similar manipulation to the one above, ##cm^3=\frac{g}{\frac{g}{cm^3}}##, which can be simplified by inverting the units in the denominator and multiplying by the numerator, ##\frac{g}{\frac{g}{cm^3}} = g × \frac{cm^3}{g}=cm^3##.

You get a volume of ##V = 3076.9\: cm^3 = \frac{4πr^3}{3}##.

When you solve for r3, the units are still cm3. By taking the cube root of r3 in cm3, you are left with the radius in cm.
 
SteamKing said:
Remember your algebra!

Density is defined as ##ρ = \frac{M}{V}##. Obviously, if you are looking for V, then you must manipulate this equation algebraically to obtain ##V = \frac{M}{ρ}##.
The units are manipulated in a similar fashion: ##\frac{g}{cm^3}=g\div cm^3##, so doing a similar manipulation to the one above, ##cm^3=\frac{g}{\frac{g}{cm^3}}##, which can be simplified by inverting the units in the denominator and multiplying by the numerator, ##\frac{g}{\frac{g}{cm^3}} = g × \frac{cm^3}{g}=cm^3##.

You get a volume of ##V = 3076.9\: cm^3 = \frac{4πr^3}{3}##.

When you solve for r3, the units are still cm3. By taking the cube root of r3 in cm3, you are left with the radius in cm.

Thank you so much :)! Just as you wrote this I finally got the answer! I appreciate it so much!
 

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