Mentalist: How did Red John know the Jane's list?

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The discussion revolves around the mystery of how the character Red John in the TV series "The Mentalist" knew the list of suspects compiled by Jane. Participants explore various theories and interpretations regarding this plot point, focusing on the narrative techniques used by the show's writers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a theory that the video revealing the suspects was recorded after Jane made the list, suggesting that the woman in the video was not actually Lorelei but someone disguised to look and sound like her.
  • Another participant suggests that Red John had numerous accomplices who could have informed him about the list or who would likely be on it based on prior investigations.
  • A different participant questions the feasibility of Red John knowing the exact suspects without also considering other potential individuals Jane interacted with.
  • Some participants note that story writers often leave ambiguities in narratives to allow for further development of the plot.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how Red John could have known the list, with no consensus reached on a single theory. Multiple competing interpretations of the narrative remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the narrative ambiguity and the potential for multiple interpretations, highlighting that the show's writing may intentionally leave certain plot points unresolved.

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This thread is only for fans of the TV series "The Mentalist". (It's a bit old, but I am watching it now.)

One of the main unrevealed questions in the TV series is how did Red John know the Jane's list of 7 suspects? By googling I have found a lot of theories, but neither seemed very convincing. So I constructed my own theory (and published it also on Quora by my real name Hrvoje Nikolic, for the case you google it by yourself). Here is my theory:

The video in which Lorelei tells who are the 7 suspects was recorded AFTER Jane made the list and AFTER Lorelei was killed. The catch is that the women in the video was not actual Lorelei, but a woman wearing a mask so that she looks like Lorelei. Her voice is distorted electronically so that she even sounds like Lorelei. (A variation of this theory is that Lorelei had a twin sister.) Simple, isn't it?
 
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I loved this show. Jane’s character was so charming and out of the box in how he flushed out the bad guys using his carny knowledge on marks and scams.

With respect to the list, I just accepted that Red John had so many accomplices everywhere that he’d get that list or had a good idea who’d be on it just from the investigations that were made. That was the beauty of the show, it’s deceptions and it’s plot twists.
 
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jedishrfu said:
With respect to the list, I just accepted that Red John had so many accomplices everywhere that he’d get that list or had a good idea who’d be on it just from the investigations that were made.
Yes, I've seen many theories of that kind, but there is no way that Red John could know that there were no also other people with whom Jane shaked hands.
 
Story writers always have some sort of fuzziness to their stories. It allows them to develop the story further by leaving a loose end.
 
jedishrfu said:
Story writers always have some sort of fuzziness to their stories. It allows them to develop the story further by leaving a loose end.
Hey, are you telling me that the Mentalist is just a fiction? :oops: :oldcry::oldbiggrin:
 
Oh no, he's out there somewhere enjoying his retirement. Sadly, he and his wife have separated.
 
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