Mesh currents, emfs, and resistances

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The discussion revolves around solving a circuit problem using mesh current analysis, specifically focusing on the application of given currents and the relationship between mesh currents and voltages. Participants explore the use of equations derived from mesh analysis to find unknown values in the circuit.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving mesh currents (ia, ib, and ic) and expresses uncertainty about using a given current instead of a voltage.
  • Another participant confirms that the set of equations looks fine and suggests using the relationship between currents (ic = i6) to proceed.
  • The original poster calculates a voltage (V = 8.3V) but finds a discrepancy with the book's answer (48.3V), prompting a request for further assistance.
  • A participant suggests checking for calculation mistakes and encourages the original poster to verify their values for ia and ib against the equations.
  • The original poster later realizes the discrepancy was due to a calculator mistake.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to solving the problem using mesh currents, but there is a moment of uncertainty regarding the correct voltage value, which is later resolved by the original poster acknowledging a calculation error.

Contextual Notes

There is a reliance on the correct application of mesh current analysis and the accuracy of calculations, which may depend on the participants' understanding of circuit theory and mathematical operations.

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Howdy!

Looking for help with the following problem (#33). I found it easiest to take a picture of the problem statement and the figure and another of my work (I am working on learning LaTeX so I can write them neatly in posts, but until then, I hope a picture is sufficient).

I got the system of 3 formulas in the picture, but in all the practice ones we did, we were given V, in this problem we're given one of the currents, but I'm not sure how to use that in this problem.

I'm using mesh currents (ia, ib, and ic), because that's how these types of problems were explained to us, although I'm sure there are multiple methods to solve this problem.

Thanks for the help!
 

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madbo517 said:
Howdy!

Looking for help with the following problem (#33). I found it easiest to take a picture of the problem statement and the figure and another of my work (I am working on learning LaTeX so I can write them neatly in posts, but until then, I hope a picture is sufficient).

I got the system of 3 formulas in the picture, but in all the practice ones we did, we were given V, in this problem we're given one of the currents, but I'm not sure how to use that in this problem.

I'm using mesh currents (ia, ib, and ic), because that's how these types of problems were explained to us, although I'm sure there are multiple methods to solve this problem.

Thanks for the help!

Hi madbo517! Welcome to MHB! :)

Your set of equations looks fine.

Next, use that $i_c = i_6$.
 
I like Serena said:
Hi madbo517! Welcome to MHB! :)

Your set of equations looks fine.

Next, use that $i_c = i_6$.

OH, of course!
Thank you so much!

So I used the fact that ic=i6, and started backtracking. I figured out what ib and ia were, and then finally that V = 8.3V. But the answer in the book says it is 48.3V.

What am I missing?
 
madbo517 said:
OH, of course!
Thank you so much!

So I used the fact that ic=i6, and started backtracking. I figured out what ib and ia were, and then finally that V = 8.3V. But the answer in the book says it is 48.3V.

What am I missing?

You're not missing anything.

I haven't checked your answer, but it's easy enough to verify if there is a calculation mistake.

What did you get for $i_a$ and $i_b$?
Fill them in in your equations and see if they are satisfied.
 
I like Serena said:
You're not missing anything.

I haven't checked your answer, but it's easy enough to verify if there is a calculation mistake.

What did you get for $i_a$ and $i_b$?
Fill them in in your equations and see if they are satisfied.
Duh - I got it! Was a silly calculator mistake.

Thank you so much!
 

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