Meson build up from a quark-antiquark pair

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The discussion revolves around the composition of mesons, specifically why they are formed from quark-antiquark pairs rather than from two normal quarks. Participants explore theoretical frameworks, classifications, and the implications of color neutrality in hadron formation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why mesons are composed of quark-antiquark pairs, noting that the tensor product of two normal quarks does not yield a valid classification for mesons due to baryon number considerations.
  • It is proposed that a pair of quarks cannot be color neutral, which leads to the assertion that diquarks cannot exist as independent bound states.
  • One participant points out that while the simple quark model suggests only q\bar{q} and qqq can form observable hadrons, there is no evidence for bound states of two quarks or four quarks, raising questions about the model's completeness.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of pentaquarks, mentioning conflicting experimental results regarding their existence, which adds complexity to the discussion about hadron states.
  • A theoretical perspective is presented regarding the stability of tetraquarks, suggesting that they may arise from interactions between two diquarks under certain mass conditions, though the specifics of these conditions remain unclear.

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Participants express varying views on the formation of mesons and the existence of other hadronic states, indicating that multiple competing models and hypotheses are present in the discussion. No consensus is reached on the validity of certain states or the implications of the quark model.

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Limitations include unresolved questions about the conditions under which certain quark combinations can form stable states and the dependence on specific mass ratios for theoretical models.

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I have some questions about mesons. I don't really understand why they are build up from a quark-antiquark pair. I know from the theory that one can classify the mesons by considering the tensor product of the fundamental representation [3] and the representation [3'] (the prime for denoting anti-particles). But I'm wondering why you can't take the tensorproduct of two normal quarks, like [3]x[3] = [6]+[3'] to classify the mesons. Or can't you have a bound state between 2 normal quarks?
 
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Pietjuh said:
Or can't you have a bound state between 2 normal quarks?

A naive answer would be that a pair of quarks couldn't be color neutral, so if you believe hadrons respect color neutrality, then a diquark couldn't exist as an independent bound state.
 
Pietjuh said:
I have some questions about mesons. I don't really understand why they are build up from a quark-antiquark pair. I know from the theory that one can classify the mesons by considering the tensor product of the fundamental representation [3] and the representation [3'] (the prime for denoting anti-particles). But I'm wondering why you can't take the tensorproduct of two normal quarks, like [3]x[3] = [6]+[3'] to classify the mesons. Or can't you have a bound state between 2 normal quarks?

The {6} in the flavour group SU(3) can not describe mesons. This is because, the states in the {6};

{6} = 1/2 [q(i)q(j) + q(j)q(i)], i = u,d and s

have non-zero baryon number;

[tex]B = \frac{1}{3} [N(q) - N(\bar{q})][/tex].

However, you are pointing to one of many paradoxes in the simple quark model.
Even though hadrons are seen to be made of [itex]q\bar{q}[/itex] and [itex]qqq[/itex], and there is no evidevce for [itex]qq[/itex] and [itex]qqqq[/itex] bound states, still the simple quark model can not explain the absence of such hadron states with masses comparable to the observed particles.
After painting the quarks with three colours (the birth of the colour group SU(3) and its gauge theory QCD), it became possible to "resolve" the paradox by the so-called colour-singlet conjecture (we can only observe colourless hadrons :redface: ), This means that q, qq and qqqq can not be seen and, since [itex]3 x \bar{3}[/itex] and [itex]3 x 3 x 3[/itex] contain colour singlets, only [itex]q\bar{q}[/itex] and [itex]qqq[/itex] can bind into physically observable hadrons.

regards

sam
 
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samalkhaiat said:
...only [itex]q\bar{q}[/itex] and [itex]qqq[/itex] can bind into physically observable hadrons.
Question. Does not [tex]\bar{q}[/tex][tex]\bar{q}[/tex][tex]\bar{q}[/tex] also form a hadron, of pure antimatter ?
 
Yes indeed. A proton is [itex]uud[/itex], an antiproton is [itex]\overline{u} \overline{u} \overline{d}[/itex].
 
Rade said:
Question. Does not [tex]\bar{q}[/tex][tex]\bar{q}[/tex][tex]\bar{q}[/tex] also form a hadron, of pure antimatter ?


Yes, I should have said:

"only [itex]q\bar{q}[/itex] , [itex]qqq[/itex] and their conjugates can bind into physically observable hadrons"


regards

sam
 
In the past two years, the existence of pentaquark(qqqqq_bar) was reported by several exp. groups,
eg. proton+proton -> (Sigma_+) + (Theta_+) .
Sigma_+ (uus) , Theta_+ (uudds_bar) ,
and Theta_+ decays to KN (nK_+ or pK_0) .
We say Theta_+ is produced, because KN forms a resonance as a peak
on the background.
We say Theta_+ is a pentaquark, because q_bar couldn't annihilate with
any other four quarks, and it couldn't be simplified as (qqq) state.

But to our surprise, later on several other exp. groups reported the null
results. So we shall wait for further decisive experiment. :rolleyes:
 
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I have read that a stable tetraquark is possible in theory when the wavefunction dynamics are viewed as interaction of two diquarks, thus |QQ[itex]\overline{q}\overline{q}[/itex]|, where the two Q are high mass quarks, the two [itex]\overline{q}[/itex] are low mass. Stability results when mass ratio (M/m) is large enough--but I have no idea how large this enough must be. Apparently works best with lightest quark combinations (u,d,s). See Ader et al, Phys Rev D 25, 1982, 2370.
 

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