Metal Deflection system/ Draft included

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of designing a metal deflection system, specifically focusing on inducing aluminum tin and deflecting it using charged plates. Participants explore various methods of metal separation, including electrostatic and magnetic approaches, and consider cost implications and design constraints.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the feasibility of using electrostatic forces for metal deflection, suggesting that high voltage would be necessary to achieve a small force.
  • Another participant notes that magnetic deflection systems are commonly used in industry for removing metallic parts and suggests that similar principles could apply at smaller scales.
  • A request for resources on magnetic deflection systems is made, along with a query about the possibility of designing such systems at a lower cost.
  • A suggestion is made to use a solenoid as a pusher element for separation.
  • There is confusion expressed regarding how a solenoid separator would function in separating metal from non-metal materials.
  • One participant proposes that eddy currents might be a more effective method for separation than electrostatic fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of electrostatic versus magnetic methods for metal deflection and separation, indicating that multiple competing approaches are under consideration. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to employ.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the assumptions behind the proposed methods, such as the specific requirements for voltage in electrostatic systems or the cost implications of magnetic systems. There are also unresolved questions about the operational principles of solenoid separators.

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Individuals interested in metal separation technologies, engineering design, and cost-effective solutions for industrial applications may find this discussion relevant.

Harmony
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I am wondering if:
1. Is it possible to design such system? I am trying to induce the Aluminium Tin, then deflect it using a positively charged metal plate.

2. If so, what is the cost needed? Let say I want to deflect the tin for about 5cm from the center, and the size of the design should not exceed the size of 80cm*80cm
 

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You did not explain the principle of your device.
I guessed this is based on electrostatic forces.
If I guessed correctly, I think it will not work. You would require very high voltage to get a small force.

Metal deflection is very much used in industry.
For example, in cement grinding plants, metalic parts could damage some equipements.
They are removed with magnetic deflection systems. This is very common.
These devices commonly remove mettalic part from large bulk flows (more than 1000 t/h) without problem.
The same principle can be applied at any scale.
 
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Thanks for your advise. Can you give me some link on the magnetic defelction system? And is it possible to design it without high cost?
 
Why not use a simple separate solenoid as the pusher element?
 
How does a solenoid separator help to separate metal from non-metal?:confused:
 
Harmony said:
How does a solenoid separator help to separate metal from non-metal?:confused:

Oh, I see your point. But I don't think you can use electrostatic fields for the separation either. Probably using eddy currents would work better?
 

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