Metal drinking cup is stuck inside a pressure cooker

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The discussion revolves around the problem of a metal drinking cup being stuck inside a pressure cooker. Participants explore various methods to extract the cup, including heating, cooling, and mechanical approaches. The conversation includes practical suggestions, safety considerations, and some humorous asides.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the cup being stuck diagonally and expresses frustration with brute force and soapy liquid not working.
  • Another participant suggests tilting the cup vertically and filling it with ice water as a potential solution.
  • Heating the pressure cooker while cooling the cup is proposed as a combined method to create differential expansion.
  • Some participants discuss the safety of using compressed air or water to pressurize the cooker while ensuring safety precautions are taken.
  • A method involving placing the cooker upside-down in an oven is suggested, with the expectation that the cup will fall out when heated.
  • One participant introduces the idea of using a wire loop to create tension on the cup, potentially allowing it to release.
  • Humorous suggestions include using liquid nitrogen or explosives to extract the cup, emphasizing the entertaining nature of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on how to extract the cup, with no consensus reached on the best method. Various safety concerns and techniques are debated without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Some methods proposed rely on assumptions about the materials involved, such as the thermal expansion properties of aluminum and steel. Safety measures are emphasized, particularly regarding the use of pressure and heat.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in practical problem-solving, mechanical extraction techniques, or those facing similar issues with stuck objects may find this discussion relevant.

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how to get the glass put of the pressure cooker
the steel glass is stuck diagonally inside the press cooker, getting it out by brute foce didn't work and neither are we able to rotate it. Washing it with soapy liquid didn't work either. Any ideas on how I can get the glass out?
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Tilt it until the cup is vertical, and then fill the cup with ice water.
 
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Is the pressure cooker still good? Can you still maneuver the lid in?
If so then bring it to pressure with a very little water (<1 oz) and carefully turn it upside down in the sink to cool while holding the pressure balancer on (wear oven mitts or welding gloves live steam will burn you badly!) Maybe whack it a couple of times while upside down . Again avoid the live steam!
A safer way to pressurize would be to use compressed air. Most pressure cookers run at ~15 psi gauge pressure.
Wear gloves and goggles
 
I would start with the @berkeman/@jack action solution - heat the cooker, chill the steel cup. That's the goto for just about anything involving interference fits and metal, and I'd be surprised if it didn't work.

But if it doesn't.... Are you willing to sacrifice the cup? If so, use a cutoff wheel to slit it starting at the rim and going a few inches towards the base, then repeat your previous applications of brute force.
 
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berkeman said:
... fill the cup with ice water
Yep. That was my thought.
 
dlgoff said:
Yep. That was my thought.
Or LN2, if that is available... :wink:
 
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berkeman said:
Or LN2, if that is available... :wink:
LOL. If I were still in college working with the particle accelerator, I'd have plenty of that.
 
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dlgoff said:
LOL. If I were still in college working with the particle accelerator, I'd have plenty of that.
It was nice having LN2 in the basement......I remember several successful wart removals as well as a few less prosaic applications!
 
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1. The aluminium pressure cooker has a higher thermal expansion coefficient, so when heated, it will expand more than a steel cup. Remove the handles from the pressure cooker, so they are not damaged by heat. Place the pressure cooker without its lid, upside-down in an oven. Turn on the oven and listen for when the cup falls.

2. Alternatively, place a loop of wire around the base of the cup, also rotate a hook into its opening. When you pull equally on those two, the opening of the cup will become more elliptical, so the cup will become narrower, and release. Without the base loop, the cup might rotate and jam in tighter.

3. Combine the two, heat and tension.
 
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@berkeman Small warts on my own fingers! All you need is q-tip and a styrofoam cup. Painless and easy. The warts are very thermally conductive These were not huge lesions!
 
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hutchphd said:
@berkeman Small warts on my own fingers! All you need is q-tip and a styrofoam cup. Painless and easy. The warts are very thermally conductive These were not huge lesions!
Those are not in my medical scope of practice, so you're on your own. If you want to sneak into my EE lab and "borrow" some LN2, I probably won't notice the small change in the 500 pound Dewar weight... :wink:
 
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I have had no warts since! But I will call if necessary Who says I had a fool for a patient........
I did love freezing stuff for lecture demos.......
 
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hutchphd said:
A safer way to pressurize would be to use compressed air. Most pressure cookers run at ~15 psi gauge pressure.
Actually the safe way to do this is to fill the pressure cooker entirely with water and then apply the compressed air with it submerged upside down in a basin full of water.
This is of course how they periodicly hydro-test scuba tanks because there is almost no energy stored in the system should there be a problem.
I think heating the aluminum pressure cooker very hot may not be a good idea for metallurgical tensile strength reasons.
 
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hutchphd said:
Actually the safe way to do this is to fill the pressure cooker entirely with water and then apply the compressed air with it submerged upside down in a basin full of water.
Nearly.
Apply water, NOT compressed air, under pressure, from a test pump, through the safety valve hole.
 
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Air is easier. It won't be enough air to matter if the pressure cooker is full of water at STP to start.
Revision: Duh! you can get 20 psi water out of your spigot Yeah use water Duh
 
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That should get the damned thing loose one way or other. I was hoping to maybe allow the pressure cooker to survive the ordeal in usable condition!
 
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this is for the guy who wants to do things right.....for a you tube video.

Place the pressure cooker on its side out on the pavement.
Put a 2 x 6 over the pressure cooker to act as a ramp.
Align the cup with the pavement / 2 x 6
Drive one wheel up the 2 x 6 .. slowly ... in slow increments <-- very important.
This acts as a vice, squeezing the pressure cooker from a circular to elliptical.
After each increment of driving up the wooden ramp, try to pull the cup out.
At some point it should...
Post your video to the internet for a million views.
 
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Better yet one could use explosives strategically placed and ultra slow motion video. Suspend the inverted cooker over a concrete slab. Red button pushed.....BOOM.......clink. Now there's your million views.
 

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