MHD Generators - What electrodes to use?

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The discussion focuses on selecting electrodes for an AC saltwater Magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) generator, emphasizing the need for efficiency and corrosion resistance. Participants recommend using tungsten welding rods for their durability and suggest experimenting with various materials due to the unique corrosive conditions of the setup. Industrial magnetic flowmeters typically utilize stainless steel or titanium, which are also viable options for this application. The goal is to measure flow effectively while avoiding issues related to electrolysis.

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  • Understanding of Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) principles
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Hi everyone,

What type of electrodes should I use for an AC saltwater MHD generator? I need something that is efficient yet corrosive resistant.

Thanks
 
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Custom1 said:
Hi everyone,

What type of electrodes should I use for an AC saltwater MHD generator? I need something that is efficient yet corrosive resistant.

Thanks

Welcome to the PF.

What have you found in your research/reading so far?
 
Custom1 said:
Hi everyone,

What type of electrodes should I use for an AC saltwater MHD generator? I need something that is efficient yet corrosive resistant.

Thanks
Do you have access to tungsten welding rods? We used those for all kinds of plasma probes.
 
I don't currently have access to tungsten welding rods but I can sure buy some on ebay.

Thanks!
 
Custom1 said:
Hi everyone,

What type of electrodes should I use for an AC saltwater MHD generator? I need something that is efficient yet corrosive resistant.

Thanks
I think you should be prepared to have to experiment; what is normally thought of as being corrosion resistant my not be in the particular conditions experienced in your apparatus. (I'm making a general comment about electrodes in general.)

You have a steady flow of brine, and will pipe it through an alternating magnetic field? Is that how it works? A pair of electrodes in the pipe wall will pick off the AC voltage. Are you making something substantial, or a "proof of concept" student demo?
 
Is your goal measurement of flow or propulsion ?

Industrial magnetic flowmeters use materials like stainless or titanium, see page 7 here:
http://w3app.siemens.com/mcms/infocenter/dokumentencenter/sc/pi/Documentsu20Brochures/E20001-A450-P710-V2-7600.pdf

The ones I've seen were small, maybe 2 inch pipe. They used high impedance amplifiers to pick off the millivolt signal. They were my first encounter with concept of "driven shield"..
 
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I am not a student but it is more of a proof of concept small scale project. I'm open to experimentation of different materials. Any uggestions?
 
Hi Jim,

It is measurement of flow. I will certainly try your suggestions.

Sorry for not quoting people I have been replying to. I'm on my phone and the quote button isn't working properly. I hope I'm not confusing anyone.
 
Any uggestions?
i think you should use AC so as to not plate anything out of the seawater onto your electrodes and to avoid electrolytic voltages.
 

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