Microchannels in a plastic film

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The discussion revolves around the creation of micron-sized channels within thermoplastic polymer films using laser techniques. Participants explore potential applications for these channels, considering their structural properties and the implications for various technologies, including cooling systems and chemical reactions.

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  • One participant describes the creation of porous channels inside thermoplastic polymer and seeks applications for this technology, suggesting possibilities like fluid devices, displays, strain gauges, or solar cells.
  • Another participant proposes that larger channels (~100µm) could be useful for cooling applications or facilitating chemical reactions that require a structured surface.
  • A follow-up request for clarification on the cooling applications and specific chemical reactions is made, indicating a desire for more detailed examples.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of microchannel cooling, suggesting that it could be applied to any heat-generating process, but does not provide specific examples of chemical reactions that would benefit from the porous structure.

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Participants express interest in potential applications but do not reach consensus on specific uses or examples. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple competing ideas and a lack of definitive applications.

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Another grad student and I have figured out a way to create micron-sized channels INSIDE a piece of thermoplastic polymer using a laser. Basically it creates a porous channel inside the material (I attached a microscope image). This is a long channel but the inside of it is not empty - it has a highly tortuous structure.

We've done this using 1mm thick plastic, and also 0.15mm thick film. Question is, is there anything cool I can make out of this? I thought about running a fluid (potentially conductive fluid) through it, making some sort of device. Some sort of display? Strain gage? Solar cell? Something bio?

Theoretically I should be able to make a void of any shape (not just channels) using this method. Again, these voids are INSIDE the material, not on the surface - it has solid polymer on top and bottom, enclosing it from the environment.

This is really backwards, normally in engineering you make something that solves a real problem. Instead, I made something for no reason and am trying to find an application. That's the sad part about academic research, but that's where I'm at today ):

Any ideas highly appreciated. Thanks!
 

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Just guessing:
With larger channels (~100µm) it could be interesting for cooling applications. Or for some chemical reactions that need a large surface but still something more structured than porous materials.
 
mfb said:
Just guessing:
With larger channels (~100µm) it could be interesting for cooling applications. Or for some chemical reactions that need a large surface but still something more structured than porous materials.

This is what I'm looking for, can you be more specific? How would this be applied to "cooling" ? Cooling of what?

And what chemical reactions would require this, do you have any examples?

Thanks
 
The concept is called microchannel cooling, and in principle everything that generates heat can be cooled - electronics, heat from friction, from hot material flowing over a surface, ...

refind said:
And what chemical reactions would require this, do you have any examples?
I don't know, but google finds many applications with the search terms "porous materials chemical reactions".
 

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