Millikan oildrop experiment: archimedes' principle

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The discussion revolves around understanding the theoretical framework of Millikan's oil drop experiment, particularly the application of Archimedes' principle in calculating the forces acting on the oil drop. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the density terms involved in the calculations.

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the forces acting on the oil drop to its density and the density of air, questioning the role of these densities in the context of Archimedes' principle.

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Participants have provided clarifications regarding the notation used for density and the concept of net weight, explaining how the weight of the oil drop is affected by the air it displaces. The original poster acknowledges understanding after receiving this input.

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The original poster indicates a lack of confidence in their physics knowledge, which may affect their interpretation of the concepts discussed.

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Hello!

My physics teacher gave me an assignment to work out (theoretically) how Millikan's oildrop experiment works.

The simple principle of the experiment (as far as I know):
E = \frac{F}{Q}
F = mg
mg = qE \rightarrow q = \frac{mg}{E}

However, after reading a bit on Wikipedia it seems as if there is more involved in order to receive an acceptable value of the particle.

Archimedes' principle:
F = pVg

Volume of a sphere (the oildrop):
V = \frac{4πr^3}{3}

The weight of the drop:
w = \frac{4πr^3}{3}(p - p_{air})g

I don't understand why p is being subtracted by p_air, what density does p refer to?


I'm sorry if I'm ambiguous or outright wrong, I'm not particularly good at physics.
You can read more about the method I'm trying to understand here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_drop_experiment#Method

Thanks in advance!
 
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It is ρ (Greek letter rho) not p.

ρ is a density of the oil.
 
In other words, \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}\rho, the volume of the oil drop times the density of oil, is the actual gravitational force on the oil drop. \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}\rho_{air} is that same volume times the density of oil. Their difference is the "net weight", the actual weight of the oil minus the weight of the air it displaces.
 
Borek said:
It is ρ (Greek letter rho) not p.

ρ is a density of the oil.

HallsofIvy said:
In other words, \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}\rho, the volume of the oil drop times the density of oil, is the actual gravitational force on the oil drop. \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}\rho_{air} is that same volume times the density of oil. Their difference is the "net weight", the actual weight of the oil minus the weight of the air it displaces.

Ah, yes, I understand now! Many thanks to both of you! :smile:
 

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