Minimum force to tip the bin over

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The discussion centers on calculating the minimum force required to tip a bin over, specifically addressing the moments about the wheel. The participant recognizes that the normal force is absent when the bin is on the verge of being lifted, leaving only the weight and applied force to consider. They express confusion about whether to ignore the vertical component of the force in their calculations, ultimately concluding that doing so is incorrect based on the provided image. The mark scheme suggests that the assumption made about the vertical component's line of action is flawed, as it does not align with the visual representation. The participant critiques the quality control of the examination materials, emphasizing the importance of accurate illustrations in physics problems.
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M = F x D
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I am stuck on part b) i). I understand that there is no normal force from the ground as the bin is on the point of being lifted off the ground, that is all fine. That leaves R, F and W.

I know W is 40g, and I am required to calculate F, therefore it makes most sense to take moments about the wheel such that the force R is ignored. I want to find the force F such that the total moment is 0. I do not know the perpendicular distance from the line of action of F to the wheel, nor do I know the perpendicular distance from the line of action of the vertical component of F to the wheel. All I know is the perpendicular distance from the line of action of the horizontal component, which is clearly 1.3.

Are we meant to ignore the vertical component and just write 40g(0.3) = Fcos(20)(1.3)? This gives me the correct answer but I do not see why we should ignore the vertical component.

Thank you all so much!
 
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You are correct. Ignoring the vertical component is wrong based on the image and you would need the horizontal moment arm to account for it correctly.
 
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This is the markscheme provided, does it provide any insight as to what the author has done?
 
Yes, the author is simply wrong.
 
I suppose they have assumed that the handle is vertically above the wheel? Such that the line of action of the vertical component goes through the wheel itself and therefore doesn't provide any moment?
 
Most likely, but this is clearly not the case based on the picture and there is no mention of this assumption in the problem statement. That makes it wrong in my opinion. Particularly as an image is provided where this is not the case.
 
This is taken straight from an A-Level Physics Examination which is the highest level of examination in the UK you can take before university. :mad:
 
Whoever constructed that clearly had a slip of mind and it should obviously not have passed quality control. Alternatively a case of the illustrator taking liberties to make the picture more realistic…
 
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