Mitosis and Meisosis - Chromatid Numbers?

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The discussion revolves around the number of chromatids and chromosomes during and after the processes of mitosis and meiosis. Participants explore the distinctions between these processes, particularly focusing on chromatid numbers and the transition from diploid to haploid cells.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines their understanding of chromatid numbers in mitosis and meiosis, suggesting that after mitosis, each daughter cell has 46 chromosomes, each with one chromatid.
  • Another participant argues that after mitosis, chromatids are no longer present as they become individual chromosomes, emphasizing the concept of ploidy and the number of chromosomes in diploid and haploid cells.
  • A participant seeks clarification on how meiosis results in four haploid cells, indicating they understand the first step but are uncertain about the subsequent division.
  • Another participant explains that meiosis II, which resembles mitosis, leads to the formation of four haploid cells from two haploid cells.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the status of chromatids after mitosis, with some asserting that chromatids no longer exist while others maintain that the concept of chromatids is relevant until the completion of the process. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise understanding of chromatid numbers and the mechanics of meiosis.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of chromatids and chromosomes, as well as the specific steps involved in meiosis II. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of these biological processes.

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Hey I am new to this forum. Hope this is in the right section.

My question is about the number of chromatids after mitosis and meiosis are completed.

Here is what I think it is:

Mitosis:

46 Chromosomes(2 Chromatids each cell)
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2 x 46 Chromosomes (1 Chromatid each cell)

Meisosis:

46 Chromosomes( 2 Chromatids each cell)
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2 x 23 Chromosomes( 2 Chromatids each cell)
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4 x 23 Chromosomes(1 Chromatid each cell)

I assume the daughter cell will be responsible to create an identical chromatid for each chromosome.
I tried to look this up but I wasn't able to find a source that emphasized the chromatid #'s.

Thanks for any help
 
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Once mitosis is completed there are no chromatids. Chromatids are two strands of duplicated DNA attached at the centromere. Once they become detached from the centromere they are called chromosomes.

The number of chomosome that "match" each other is usually referred to as ploidy.
Humans have 23 X 2 =46 chromosomes. After mitosis each daughter cells has 46 chromosomes. 23 pairs. Since tthere exists pairs, this cell is called diploid.

Triploid (plants mostly) have 3 sets, a triploid human cell, if it could survive at all, would have 3 X 23 = 69 chromosomes. Tetraploid means 4 copies, hexaploid 6. Commercial strawberry varieties are octaploid.

Gametes resulting from meiosis are haploid. They have one half the number of chromosomes of the parent cell because they have only one set of chromosomes, not a pair. Human gametes have 23 chromosomes.

I think this is what you are asking. If it is not please clarify.
 
Ok thanks for the prompt response.
I think I have most of it now.
One more question.

Meiosis(in humans):

Duploid Cell

2 x Haploid Cell

4 x Haploid CellsThe first step of Meisosis I understand that one set of the chromosome goes to each daughter cell.
So after the first step, there would be two cells with 23 Chromosomes.
Now how does the next step work?
How do you create 4 cells with 23 chromosomes?

Thanks again.
 
2->4 haploid cells results from cell division - it is called meiosis II, and is very like mitosis.

Meiosis I: a single 2n (diploid) cell --> two 1n (haploid) cells
Meiosis II: 2 haploid cells --> 4 haploid cells.
 

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